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Originally posted by nik
New manager will take 3 weeks to appoint at a guess.

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The fact Diarra was apparently signed and sealed yesterday would suggest the next manager is already in cahoots at the club tbh.

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Originally posted by nik
Does the news paper come free?

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New manager will take 3 weeks to appoint at a guess.

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The fact Diarra was apparently signed and sealed yesterday would suggest the next manager is already in cahoots at the club tbh.

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Nothing on the Arsenal website so this is entirely false (atm)

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Originally posted by nik
I'd be happy with that. Seeing as I'm allover the UK with my business and have many contacts through Europe and North America, not forgetting Asia Any can Northeners even afford to travel?

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Nik you tool

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Who has the biggest e-penis?

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Who has the biggest e-penis?

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Originally posted by Mad Moe

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Who has the biggest e-penis?

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That would be me, all 24" of it

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Sorry but who gives a shit how much either of you have travelled

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Originally posted by Marc
Even Roeder didn't do too badly! You can change the manager but you're left with the same players!

Big Sam was on the right tracks with sorting the defence out. With some of the players they have, Given, Butt, Milner, Owen, Smith, Viduka, Martins they should be top 6!

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The following from nufc.com makes very true reading:

One should never be surprised by anything that happens on Barrack Road, save for the appearance of an open top bus carrying a trophy festooned in black & white ribbons.

However we are struggling to recall when we last parted company with a manager whose name was sung in what proved to be his final game in charge. Keegan, probably.

It's important though to place on record the profound depression and disillusionment that had set in amongst many of our hard-core supporters - and we're not talking about message board jockeys or serial 606 texters here.

Fans known to us for many years were dropping by the wayside, or even contemplating packing in and/or picking their games.

When that sort of indifference starts to become the norm, alarm bells start ringing - empty seats don't cheer or boo.

Many of those people were still there on Sunday though, still supporting their team - and cheering for Allardyce.

That's what we do. We're not political to the same extent as the fans of some other teams - we can't even organise a supporters club.

The Boxing Day defeat at Wigan saw the infamous "we're shit and we're sick of it" chant, but for every fan joining in with that, others bit their lips or abandoned hope and refused to return while we remain a football-free zone.

Forget all of this twaddle about pressure and expectation: no slack-jawed ex-player or self-important rag writer can tell those people travelling the length of the country to be patient in the face of what they are seeing.

Winning at Fulham, drawing against Derby, losing at Wigan - all unwatchable, regardless of the final score.

Allardyce hasn't gone purely because of results, but because of the lifeless performances - in common parlance he seemed to have lost the dressing room, if he ever had it - Butt's "United we stand" comments notwithstanding.

The issue that vexes us is why dump him now - why not after Wigan?

Is there a semblance of a plan? A change in circumstance with our preferred candidate in the last few hours?

Can it really be as simple as Ashley being booked to go away on his jollies and returning to see that excuse for a performance from behind the goal on Sunday?

Or is this an off-the-cuff decision, a whim of the type that has seen Ashley attract criticism from the stock market community for his unpredictability in business dealings?

Those experts wittering on about the great managers being given time elsewhere that they wouldn't get on Tyneside conveniently ignore the sheer unadulterated bloody rubbish that has been served up by his players - not to mention the holes in his squad last Sunday.

While Milner was genuinely ill and Carr lacking match fitness, suspicions remain that others made themselves unavailable, including some of the African Nations-bound contingent. Shola of course will be gutted by Sam going.

Opinion will remain divided on whether Allardyce would have "got it right" eventually - or we'd have sunk still further away from the business end of the table.

But this isn't Ebbsfleet United, someone ultimately has to the run the damn thing and take major decisions, unless we appoint Simon Cowell and turn the whole thing into a premium rate phoneline extravaganza.....

For Mort and Ashley this is the point that they draw a line under their first seven months, having overseen much positive change off the field.

However they have watched their initial policy of leaving the previously-appointed man in post undo some of that good work by providing sub-standard product to sell.

Another link with the previous administration is severed then - and it's the last major one.

Whoever takes the job now has a fantastic opportunity to rewrite history - whilst trying to succeed where a galaxy of familiar footballing names have ultimately failed.

It's a sad fact that the identity of our new manager will at least partly dictate how much rope he's given by the press - both national and local.

On a positive note though, he'll probably speak to the BBC, an ongoing issue which overshadowed the whole of the Allardyce administration - certainly the regular appearances of Nigel Pearson did Sam no favours.

Another element that has to be faced is the Barton situation - that could of course be taken from the new man's burden by being resolved before he's appointed.

Is this mob rule?

If so, who in their right mind would take this club on - knowing as they do that their future rests on the whim of a volatile crowd.

As Allardyce himself said though, it's a results business and the performances of the Newcastle players have ultimately put Ashley and Mort in a place where they even considered a change of manager.

Underachieving on an epic scale - that could be our motto.

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Originally posted by liamC
People who say we should "give him time", please state what he should exactly be given time to do, that he couldnt have done already?

[Edited on 10-01-2008 by liamC]

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Originally posted by liamC
His constant inclusion of the shite Alan Smith and Geremi meant it was like playing with 9 players every game.

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Originally posted by nik

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Originally posted by strick206
Sorry but who gives a shit how much either of you have travelled

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Neither could I, but he was the penis who thought he'd be clever

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People who say we should "give him time", please state what he should exactly be given time to do, that he couldnt have done already?

[Edited on 10-01-2008 by liamC]

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That basically sums up the problem with newcastle fans, he has been there for 24 games ffs

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Originally posted by liamC
His constant inclusion of the shite Alan Smith and Geremi meant it was like playing with 9 players every game.

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Now i don't believe for one minute having alan smith in the starting line up is like playing one player down

Watching him at united he gives his all and i'm sure that would be the same at the toon

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Sorry but who gives a shit how much either of you have travelled

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Neither could I, but he was the penis who thought he'd be clever

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Hang on a second, you were infact the cock who started goign on about how well travelled you are. All I was getting at was all of the comments you made about Newcastle Utd were the same shit that is spewed by the Papers daily with out actually having no firm grap of the facts

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Sorry but who gives a shit how much either of you have travelled

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Neither could I, but he was the penis who thought he'd be clever

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Hang on a second, you were infact the cock who started goign on about how well travelled you are. All I was getting at was all of the comments you made about Newcastle Utd were the same shit that is spewed by the Papers daily with out actually having no firm grap of the facts

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