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lol @ the corsa c
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chris_uk
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whats the Kw on a Z20LET?
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chip
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Hi, Ian just asked me for some clarification on this.
As far as I am aware the paragraph that states:
One or two people pulled a face when told of their cars power outputs but most of the frowns turned upside down when told the figures were being quoted at the wheels not at the flywheel, which is the format we use in the mag.
Thats referring not to the figures published in the mag, which are flywheel figures, its referring to the lower figures people were initially quoted on the day by the rolling road.
Thats my understanding anyway, but as I wasnt there myself, I cant claim its a definitive reply.
So for example a 100bhp car would have been quoted on the day initally something more along the lines of 80bhp, but then once taken back to a prejected flywheel figure, it would be back at 100bhp.
hope that helps.
Chip
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Ian
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Cheers.
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chip
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Ps
If they are wheels figures, then BLATANTLY they are wrong, lol
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chris_uk
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so what you are saying is that in the mag the figures on this table here
are ALL at the fly results?
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chip
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Yes that is exactly what I am saying I beleive to be the case.
That ALL those figures, are predicted flywheel figures.
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Adam_B
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well thats that sorted then, thankyou very muh good night. next.
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chris_uk
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
well thats that sorted then, thankyou very muh good night. next.
not quite adam 
chip, you said that the figures that were given to the people on the day were the wheels power. the figures you have on your graph are the same as we got on the paper copy.
this means that you have contradicted yourself.
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jr
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it got so serious, that chip had to be located in internet wilderness and made to come and confirm the answer 
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jr
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FFS chris
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chris_uk
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
FFS chris
what!
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Adam_B
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tbh i thought it was pretty fucking obvious whenever this all started ages ago 
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jr
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
quote:
Originally posted by jr
FFS chris
what!
just when we thought it was sorted you find more reasons 
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chris_uk
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im just wanting clarification thats all..
as far as i can make out we were given fly power on the day and its also fly power thats in the mag..
end of good night..
but if chip is saying we got wheel figures on the day but the tv issue states fly
both the readings gave the same number.
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chip
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
well thats that sorted then, thankyou very muh good night. next.
not quite adam
chip, you said that the figures that were given to the people on the day were the wheels power. the figures you have on your graph are the same as we got on the paper copy.
this means that you have contradicted yourself.
Im saying the verbal figures quoted initially sound like they were at the wheels, not the final printouts or the figures in the mag.
Sounds like there was some confusion on the day, but those figures there are NOT wheels figures, no way, just bloody look at them!
[Edited on 28-09-2008 by chip]
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chris_uk
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if there is any form of doubt i will raise it..
chip, you are in agreement that the paper copys we received and the total vaux results are in fly figures..
i know and you know this is the case but there are some ppl that just need to see it in black and white.
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chip
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Just in case I havent made it clear enough so far:
Figures quoted in the TV league, are ALWAYS quoted at the fly.
[Edited on 28-09-2008 by chip]
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chip
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
if there is any form of doubt i will raise it..
chip, you are in agreement that the paper copys we received and the total vaux results are in fly figures..
i know and you know this is the case but there are some ppl that just need to see it in black and white.
I havent seen everyone's paper copies, but if they correspond to the numbers quoted in the mags, then YES they are flywheel figures not at the wheels.
The mag only ever quote flywheel figures on the TV league as it has to be the same rules for everyone.
That said, of course there will always be slight variations from roller to roller, but we do our best to keep it as fair as possible.
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chris_uk
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thank you..
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chip
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No problem, glad I could help.
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ste2k07
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im sorry but im not going to believe CHIP's posts as for all i know it could be a member doing this to back chris up.
So for clarification i will call total vauxhall and hi-tech AGAIN tomorrow to what must seem to "tripple" check the results and where they were read from.....
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Ste L
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if you dont belive him..
go on vauxsport, and ask him there.. same person, different site, and as a reader of tv, you should know of vs, as it's mentioned in tv quite alot :roll:
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Adam_B
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oh come on
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chris_uk
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like i said in my first post adam, you CAN NOT argue with a retard.
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