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~willow~
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19th Feb 09 at 17:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by ash_corsa
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Originally posted by ~willow~
this car should of had a vic check!!! it surely should not be on the road if it hasnt had one??


Get your facts right mate, VIC is a Vehicle Identity Check, this is carried out to check the documents, VIN numbers, Chassis stamps match-up.

A VOSA inspection is what needs to have been done, or an engineers report.

Just because its CatC doesnt mean its had a major smash, most sports/ prestige cars that have a smash are very expensive to fix, i.e. M3 bumpers, wider front wings etc..
Its just been too expensive for the insurance company to see it worthwhile fixing, so its doubtful that it would need an engineers report, unless it was structurally damaged.


VIC check is all a cat c gets done, it's just to check it's not a ringer, nothing to do with how it's been repaired.


exactly but all cat c cars have to have them! cat d cars dont
~willow~
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Originally posted by ~willow~

i remeber when i worked at a major bodyshop we had this civic type r that had been rolled badly, the bloke that bought it from us bought it for one thing only and he was happy to tell us about it! he had a civic type r which he had 'aquired' which had no plates or docs etc.



I hope you informed the police of this fucking prick, its fuck-wits like him that cause problems like this for innocent people further down the line.

im pretty sure my manager did!
ash_corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by ash_corsa
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Originally posted by ~willow~
this car should of had a vic check!!! it surely should not be on the road if it hasnt had one??


Get your facts right mate, VIC is a Vehicle Identity Check, this is carried out to check the documents, VIN numbers, Chassis stamps match-up.

A VOSA inspection is what needs to have been done, or an engineers report.

Just because its CatC doesnt mean its had a major smash, most sports/ prestige cars that have a smash are very expensive to fix, i.e. M3 bumpers, wider front wings etc..
Its just been too expensive for the insurance company to see it worthwhile fixing, so its doubtful that it would need an engineers report, unless it was structurally damaged.


VIC check is all a cat c gets done, it's just to check it's not a ringer, nothing to do with how it's been repaired.


I know, thats why there is an engineers report to make sure the car is safe to go back on the road
John
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19th Feb 09 at 17:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

They don't need an engineers report though.
~willow~
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Originally posted by John
They don't need an engineers report though.


infact they dont even need to be checked by an engineer do they? only the vic to make sure its not a ringer or has stolen parts on it
John
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Yip.
Mike GSi
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19th Feb 09 at 17:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

All matches up
~willow~
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Originally posted by Mike Z20LET
All matches up


should be ok then. anyway for what your asking for it it should sell easy! just make sure the next owner knows its a cat c and write a recepit stationg it too so it cant come back on you! just cover your own back. good luck with the sale
Mike GSi
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So is the outcome of this:

DVLA dont know its a CAT C thats the reason its not on the Logbook?

HPI sites think that its a CAT C

How would they know but the DVLA wouldnt?
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its to old a record to be shown on the log book, think it was brought in a few yrs ago about it being printed on the log book
John
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Insurance can register it as a write off and without declaring it to the dvla I think, possible that the dvla were never notified.

Or above is a better answer if that was changed.

[Edited on 19-02-2009 by John]
Mike GSi
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oh i see, well as long as its all legit i dont mind. i hate dodgy bastards
~willow~
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id check about the vic check though as im pretty sure it should of had one done before it was driven on the roads.
Mike GSi
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yeah i would have thought so too, unless its a recent rule? the CAT C was recorded 20th april 2000
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im sure it was brought in when i worked at the bodyshop which was about 2 and a half or 3yrs ago!
i shouldnt worry about it not being shown on the log book! what colour is it under the carpets etc?
John
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You saying it's a cat c should be enough.

If they know it's been a write off and don't check anything they might want to know themselves they either shouldn't be buying it or don't deserve to know.
Mike GSi
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19th Feb 09 at 17:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok thanks guys, its yellow everywhere, no sign of any other colour
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Id be trying to locate where it was damaged. Otherwise my head would be telling me its been nicked at some point & cloned with a cat C damaged car of a different colour.
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yea, it would be interesting to see when the colour change was done, if you want me to fwd you the reg check pm me your phone number and ill text it over.
Mike GSi
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thanks
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I had a CAT C ZM and had no trouble selling it; also you couldn't tell where the damage was but i knew it was front corner; but still couldnt tell.

Have you tried to trace the service history through BMW; my CAT C didnt have it when we bought it but rang the main agent and sent the book round to the necessry places and it added a fair few ££'s to it
Mike GSi
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19th Feb 09 at 18:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No i havent tried that yet.
ShEp
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19th Feb 09 at 18:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I maybe playing dumb here

But the registration has been changed before.

The REGISTRATION has a cat C registered against it,

Can you check the vin to make sure that reg was on that car when the cat C happened?
Graham88
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19th Feb 09 at 18:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by Mike Z20LET
you dont need a trailer, it has MOT and TAX

Yeah like I can get insured with 0NCB
ash_corsa
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Where are the chassis numbers on the M3?

Check the surrounding areas for welding.

My S3 had the plate changed and you couldnt see it with the big plastic trim on that covers it up. They also changed the dash plate and the whole engine, just to marry-up the numbers. Was a 'pro' job

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