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philip2

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7th Dec 10 at 19:24

dont need metal rollers....i havent got them and i know martin bowyer doesnt use them on his. i know a mod for the idler though.

cams i can supply fresh newmans if wanted.

SportBoy

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7th Dec 10 at 19:24

quote:
Originally posted by Ian

Grunt in a straight line is for people who can't drive around corners.

one if those things people say who dont have much power

Ojc

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Location: Reading: Drives : Clio 197
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7th Dec 10 at 19:28

What exhaust did you have on yours Stu? I don't remember it being loud which is what I want.

gavin18787

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7th Dec 10 at 19:30

quote:
Originally posted by philip2
dont need metal rollers....i havent got them and i know martin bowyer doesnt use them on his. i know a mod for the idler though.

cams i can supply fresh newmans if wanted.

But if you are going to buy new ones which I assume you would on a new build you may as well pay a little more for the SBD jobbies.

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

gavin18787

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7th Dec 10 at 19:30

quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
What exhaust did you have on yours Stu? I don't remember it being loud which is what I want.

I liked my magnex that was nice and quite

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

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7th Dec 10 at 19:31

quote:
Originally posted by philip2
dont need metal rollers....i havent got them and i know martin bowyer doesnt use them on his. i know a mod for the idler though.

cams i can supply fresh newmans if wanted.

You dont need anything untill the things that were working brake. I'd rather fit uprated parts that are fairly cheap whilst the cams are getting swapped.

Plastic OE rollers/idlers or metal... hmm

Oliver - You dont need a baffled sump either.... untill you catch a bearing due to oil starvation.

Whoa... then its too late

RCS

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Registered: 26th Jan 05
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7th Dec 10 at 19:35

Springs and dampers need to work with motion ratios. Wheel rates are what is important so its no good comparing different spring rates between different cars.

FWD handling is all about diff and roll stiffness/roll centre split front to rear - as well as getting dampers to work. I picked up 1 second a lap at Mallory Park with just damping adjustments.

Sort the handling then go down the engine route. Its more fun going round corners quickly than it is in a straight line.

corsadonk

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7th Dec 10 at 19:37

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Small engine on the cheap, drive it fast.

Why you would want thousands of pounds in a car you're going to lash about I'm not clear.

They'll brake and turn in the same regardless of how much power it has.

Grunt in a straight line is for people who can't drive around corners.

Like me

I think I do too many miles in a transit, so it always takes a while to get used to cars

I always brake too early at Combe, but I never really trusted my old van under braking. But I do hope my new project will sort all these problems.

smcGSI16V

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Registered: 26th May 03
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7th Dec 10 at 19:46

My exhaust was a janspeed jobbie but was 8 years old.

Do the x16xe come with a baffled sump?
The c16xe does iirc.

And if it didn't I never suffered from oil starvation problems, only oil running out problems.

nothing a litre of oil never cured.

willay

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7th Dec 10 at 19:47

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7th Dec 10 at 19:48

i mean properly baffled pan, not a windage type tray thing.

I'd be surprised if they did. I'll google it

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7th Dec 10 at 19:59

SBD offer a baffled (gated) sump pan.... so they have something to improve with. Not conclusive though.

ianofbhills

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7th Dec 10 at 20:05

there definitely not baffled as stock

Mike

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7th Dec 10 at 21:21

quote:
Originally posted by SportBoy

quote:
Originally posted by Ian

Grunt in a straight line is for people who can't drive around corners.

one if those things people say who dont have much power

That's because it's true, and you yourself have agreed with that in the past, only with different wording

SportBoy

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7th Dec 10 at 21:23

i did? oh

Warren G

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7th Dec 10 at 21:29

has a baffle plate. you have no issues there.

rollers, just new plastic ones will do, dpnt know any high power 1.8's corsa c with any roller issues! they have improved them years and years ago.

simple.

cams, inlet, exhaust chip for raised rev limter. sorted

LIKE

Mike

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7th Dec 10 at 21:32

quote:
Originally posted by SportBoy
i did? oh

Something about how fast I punt that 1.2 round a racetrack

It's all in the corners

The 72 asthmatic donkeys under the bonnet definitely weren't the reason behind it

SportBoy

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7th Dec 10 at 21:35

i bet it was a xe really and the bonnet catch had broke

Mike

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7th Dec 10 at 21:39

Shit I didn't think anyone would catch on

Ojc

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7th Dec 10 at 23:14

So come on then what suspension should I be buying?

lee303

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7th Dec 10 at 23:19

i’d go for gaz personally, as i have had good experience with them on the nova and they aren’t mega money, no need to get the golds, just the single adjustment ones will be more than enough, with 275lb front and 300lb rear springs, 8 inch open length on both

gez bay

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Registered: 14th Feb 08
Location: South Wales drives: Vxr
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7th Dec 10 at 23:19

nice coilover set up, with adjustable damping.
Get it to the height you want and cant get it solid for track, and soft for the roads.

Ojc

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7th Dec 10 at 23:32

Gaz is what is going through my mind also. The ease of specifying springs with them helps as well

broster

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8th Dec 10 at 07:10

Ojc, seriously look at Bilstein pas coilovers! I'll be fittin a set to my gsi this week but my old pss9s were excellent!

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8th Dec 10 at 08:55

quote:
Originally posted by lee303
really? how soft? good lads coilsprings though...

had to make a slight change as they dont keep the rear deisgn on file to work with the coilover platforms, rears are 350lb, got a feeling the fronts will end up far to soft for track, as there just a road spec spring, dont have the figures to hand

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