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jr
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23rd Dec 10 at 14:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by AK
I always thought GAZ were setupo by ex AVO employies, not LEDA


its GAZZARD enginering from Basildon, who took on LEDA design engineers when LEDA went bust, who were also on Basildon, and then LEDA name was used again with some previous staff at a new place in Derby
Warren G
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Originally posted by AK
plus getting to and from....

1 set of tyres and brakes may do a year but you WILL NOT be competative.

200 on maintaince Er..... good luck with that


ie oil change everyother event, fluid changes

most other things are wear and tear....pads may last 3-4 events or even more


this isnt a event for rich people, you have to make this last longer,

and at the end of the day its a clio, its a cheap hot hatch nothing is THAT costly

jr
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
plus getting to and from....

1 set of tyres and brakes may do a year but you WILL NOT be competative.

200 on maintaince Er..... good luck with that


ie oil change everyother event, fluid changes

most other things are wear and tear....pads may last 3-4 events or even more


this isnt a event for rich people, you have to make this last longer,

and at the end of the day its a clio, its a cheap hot hatch nothing is THAT costly




its a race serious, you WILL break stuff, running a engine at high revs over 15-25 mins etc + all the other issues you will break things
Warren G
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Originally posted by AK
we worked out that we spent about 7-8k last year...

Entry fees were about £1500

we budgeted 2.5k for fuel to get there and on the day for the year. That should be too bad for you.

We spent maybe 1.5k on tyres

We spent about 6-700 on brake consumables

Or 'service' after each round costs about £150 so - 750 just in parts


you have a 500bhp skyline and imprezza and alot of money though....

the ideal and classes are totaly different
jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Warren G
quote:
Originally posted by AK
we worked out that we spent about 7-8k last year...

Entry fees were about £1500

we budgeted 2.5k for fuel to get there and on the day for the year. That should be too bad for you.

We spent maybe 1.5k on tyres

We spent about 6-700 on brake consumables

Or 'service' after each round costs about £150 so - 750 just in parts


you have a 500bhp skyline and imprezza and alot of money though....

the ideal and classes are totaly different


i agree, The cars in the MSV thophy will actully be running for longer than fee or adams cars do when putting laps in on the time attack circuit, what there doing is almost a spring compared to a 15min short circuit race, and thats before someone drives into you

[Edited on 23-12-2010 by jr]
Warren G
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by Warren G
quote:
Originally posted by AK
plus getting to and from....

1 set of tyres and brakes may do a year but you WILL NOT be competative.

200 on maintaince Er..... good luck with that


ie oil change everyother event, fluid changes

most other things are wear and tear....pads may last 3-4 events or even more


this isnt a event for rich people, you have to make this last longer,

and at the end of the day its a clio, its a cheap hot hatch nothing is THAT costly




its a race serious, you WILL break stuff, running a engine at high revs over 15-25 mins etc + all the other issues you will break things



and you cant budget for breakages, but in the real world

say you blow up a engine - £600, gearbox £250 etc


its not like its a 5k engine or gearbox under the bonnet, internals standard there for everythings bolt on
AK
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23rd Dec 10 at 15:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Warren -

If you think the series Paul is on about is for poor people you are mistaken.

ALL motorsport is expensive!

All the safety gear you need is the same as us.

It doesnt really matter that I have money or not.... I choose to service a car after every round... and I know that it'll cost more than £200 over a full season (if maintained properly)


That 7k odd oes not include any breakages. We used 2 gearboxes last year, and ecu, ign module etc etc.... new engine late 2009, new engine 2008. refreshed engine in 2011.

All i'm trying to say is if you want to be near the front the word 'budget' get punted out the window!
Butler
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Did Paul actually say hes putting £200 aside for the whole season? Even il be putting much more into it than that. The thing is with this series is its only about 4 races, and if we dont have the money we wont enter them all simple as. Paul and I have both wanted to compete for absolutely years though and at some point you have to bite the bullet.
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quote:
Originally posted by Butler
Did Paul actually say hes putting £200 aside for the whole season? Even il be putting much more into it than that. The thing is with this series is its only about 4 races, and if we dont have the money we wont enter them all simple as. Paul and I have both wanted to compete for absolutely years though and at some point you have to bite the bullet.


nah Warren did.
gavin18787
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quote:
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I can't wait to drive this car in the dry....



Im still waiting to try mine in the dry


Drives supercharged Tec with torque
Warren G
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
Warren -

If you think the series Paul is on about is for poor people you are mistaken.

ALL motorsport is expensive!

All the safety gear you need is the same as us.

It doesnt really matter that I have money or not.... I choose to service a car after every round... and I know that it'll cost more than £200 over a full season (if maintained properly)


That 7k odd oes not include any breakages. We used 2 gearboxes last year, and ecu, ign module etc etc.... new engine late 2009, new engine 2008. refreshed engine in 2011.

All i'm trying to say is if you want to be near the front the word 'budget' get punted out the window!


okay when i said poor - wrong word, lower level budget championship

Im looking at it from my point of view - if i was to enter

when i said maintance i was just furthering to engine servicing, which is completely different to compount failures

the difference being I would be the one doing it, fixing it and getting thing cheaper - im not looking from a 'racing drivers' point of view

you can make things too expensive, dont cut corners but be sensible

the cars cost what £1200, - you could get a full car (aka a box for spares) for same again....its a cheap hot hatch
Paul_J
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23rd Dec 10 at 20:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
I can't wait to drive this car in the dry....



Im still waiting to try mine in the dry


fairly dry tonight and still just complete wheel spin in 1st and 2nd and 3rd... wtf.
gavin18787
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23rd Dec 10 at 21:25   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

shit tyres on it?

Was dryish coming home on the a13 this evening and I still got aload of spin in 3rd been a child chasing an M3


Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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its not that dry
bolton
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23rd Dec 10 at 22:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

get that clio from bolton?
gavin18787
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quote:
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its not that dry



True but as dry as its been in a long time


Drives supercharged Tec with torque

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