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taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 15:08

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
If you are using the honda engine and box why would you turn the engine round? just stick it in the back facing the same way it does in the front.

i want the engine in the boot not mid mounted

Liam-Wilko

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1st Feb 12 at 15:10

question what cost is this looking at?

taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 15:12

wont be huge if i use an x18xe or something? i have mates that can alter mani and make mounts ect... hardest bit would be the shafts and oil to the gearbox

Liam-Wilko

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1st Feb 12 at 15:14

like i said i wanted to but a B16 engine in my corsa but faced the prob of were the box sits but could not get my head around doign it and cost implicated was gonna be quite big and i know a few people that can do some serias work and cheap lol how much ya looking at ya limit to spend

taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 15:21

ideally wouldnt want to spend more than £1k on getting the engine in and running... the rear of an imp would 100% lend itself to this conversion though...

look at suspension set up

DaveyLC

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1st Feb 12 at 15:23

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Davey - look at my diagram for what he means.

Rotate the box around the input spline so the shafts are on the exhaust side of the engine then mount it in the car with the box on the left side, inlet facing you.

Just had a look The gearbox would self destruct if it was turned like that..

The shafts sit behind the enigne would would put the engine in the middle of the car which makes far more sense, mounting a transverse engine in the boot is just stupid, it will drive like a complete pig.

taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 15:25

is there a reason it would drive differant? im not 100% on the innerds of gearboxs

a good pic of the rear

taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 15:27

also is it just the oil starvation that would cause self destruct?

taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 15:30

mounting the engine mid is a lot of work to change the full suspension set up... was trying to avoid that?

DaveyLC

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1st Feb 12 at 15:40

quote:
Originally posted by john-d
is there a reason it would drive differant? im not 100% on the innerds of gearboxs

Put it this way.. Porsche have spent billions making a car with an engine hanging out its arse drive like a decent car

taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 15:47

True mate... Wonder if the imps rear axle could just be turned around hmmm

Liam-Wilko

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1st Feb 12 at 15:51

this might be stupid but have you not considered just buying a MR2 or something RWD and engine mounted in the back any way

Steve

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1st Feb 12 at 15:53

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Davey - look at my diagram for what he means.

Rotate the box around the input spline so the shafts are on the exhaust side of the engine then mount it in the car with the box on the left side, inlet facing you.

Just had a look The gearbox would self destruct if it was turned like that..

The shafts sit behind the enigne would would put the engine in the middle of the car which makes far more sense, mounting a transverse engine in the boot is just stupid, it will drive like a complete pig.

this is true, gearbox should have an oil flinger internally which relies on the oil sitting over it in volume

taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 15:56

there's no fun in just buying a ready made car... This will be cool imo..

looks like daveys right and mid mounted is probs best

Liam-Wilko

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1st Feb 12 at 16:00

far point

taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 16:05

Lol this whole thread stems around rotating

If the back axle was rotated I don't think the rear suspension will change much..

gazza808

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1st Feb 12 at 16:20

I've seen an imp using standard? (Maybe uprated) transaxle, with a 1.3 106 rallye lump (all alloy and light) on bike carbs, don't know if internals were standard.

It was peddling at quite a rate around the track.

taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 16:27

Standard transaxles are made from pre melted chocolate

Cole

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1st Feb 12 at 18:30

There is a guy in my town with an imp running an r5 turbo engine not seen it driving about much lately but it's always parked on the side of the rd not far from me

Ian

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1st Feb 12 at 18:35

What is the issue with rotating the box? Just oil starvation?

taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 18:48

Yea from what I can gather

Steve

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1st Feb 12 at 18:49

basically yeah, oil would sit in the wrong parts of the box and not get to the right places. Also i think most boxes have breather holes in the top which could leak?

taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 18:56

Holes aren't an issue they can be filled... In reality it will probably be an x16xe and it will be mid mounted somehow... as I think I've cracked how to mount the suspension.

Steve

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1st Feb 12 at 18:57

youd still need a breather though lol, i suppose you could tap one on the other side of the box

youd still get starvation issues though mainly if the gear box has a 5th gear housing like the fords, if you turned that upside down the oil wouldnt circulate in there

taylorboosh

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1st Feb 12 at 19:46

this is my idea of how mid mounting would work..

heres standard

heres mid

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