Marc
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Up the Salford Reds.
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Rick Draper
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quote:
Originally posted by Cavey
United at 15/8 to qualify tonight is actually tempting me
I'd take those odd's as they play tomorrow night 
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Steve
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That's almost 2/1 are the bookmakers having a lol 
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Steve
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Saying that, probably not far off taking into account how shit we are
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Cavey
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To qualify...so essentially United - 3 goals
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Cavey
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Chelsea 1 up, and the game is boring as hell already. Cunts jumping on the floor at every opportunity from both teams
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Rob_Quads
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there are certainly quite a few snipers in the stadium tonight
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Looking more and more like Moyes out, if they go out of CL this week and lose to City lot of people seem to think the board will have no choice
There is zero evidence to back that up.
I would ask you to stop talking shite but why change the habit of a lifetime?
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mwg
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Since he came to Man United I haven't seen anything from him so far to show that he is the right man for the job
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Steve
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No you're right, there isn't any evidence, but when has there ever been any evidence in these things.
The best evidence is subjection from the performances and poor tactical decisions.
Lets not forget you lambasted me for saying AVB was crap and wouldn't last.
When you have managers coming out to defend their position, it usually doesn't end well. Tell me in recent times when a manager who has had to come out and say his job isn't under threat, has gone on to stay at that club, and also do well.
[Edited on 19-03-2014 by Steve]
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Skinz
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Sam Allardyce was on the brink of the boot with the board coming out defending him earlier in the season, won all four games in February.
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Steve
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Trust you where have you popped up from? just to prove a point
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Skinz
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Steve
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Regards Allardyce, I think his critics were unfair, he was the best man to handle the situation at WH, David Moyes, is not and has not shown anything to suggest otherwise.
I wished he did because I don't have anything against the bloke, hes a decent man!
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Skinz
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Alardyce surprised me tbh, I heard an interview with him a few days before they played Spurs he sounded down trodden and a dead man walking and I thought we would maul them, how wrong I was.
I'm not convinced Moyes is the man and imo should never have got the job in the first place, however I fdo think he took over at almost the worst possible time, ageing squad, old manager gone upstairs watching over, pressure for success, I do feel a little sorry for him and the players need to should some of the responsibility.
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by mwg
Since he came to Man United I haven't seen anything from him so far to show that he is the right man for the job
As a United fan you wouldn't. Facts are he has the exact same amount of points as he did with Everton last term. For folk other than United fans there's also a strong case that his Everton squad was better than the current United one, barring a couple of noteable exceptions.
He'll get given the correct amount of time because the club and the people running it aren't stupid. This latest wave of folk suggesting he'll be sacked is based on a defeat to the best Liverpool side in an age. Ironically had United done that to Liverpool at any point over the last few seasons it would have been forgotten about in a few days but there seems to be a problem for a lot of people, United fans included, to accept this is a transitional period that every single club will have to go through at one stage.
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mwg
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Moyes is not getting the best out of the players he currently has at his disposal. He does not have enough presence, he's boring and that's showing in the way we play. He can't get the team fired up. If he can't do that then he is failing at his job as a manager
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Steve
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louis van gaal quoted as saying again he wants to come to the PL 
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Hammer
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He's not getting the best out of the players currently at his disposal because he hasn't been given the correct tools to be able to do so. That will be remedied in the next few windows.
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mwg
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What tools are we talking about?
He's got some of the best training facilities, he brought in his own staff. It's up to him to use all that to get the best out of the players he has.
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Steve
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Perhaps the problem is the coaching staff..
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Skinz
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quote:
Originally posted by mwg
What tools are we talking about?
The fans?
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mwg
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Steve Williams
[Edited on 19-03-2014 by mwg]
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Steve
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• Worst start to a league campaign after six games since 1989-90
• WBA - first win over United for 19 years
• WBA - first win at Old Trafford for 26 years
• Everton - first win at Old Trafford for 21 years
• Newcastle - first win at Old Trafford for 41 years
• Tottenham - second consecutive win at Old Trafford
• Swansea - won for the first time in their history at Old Trafford
• Lost 3 games in a row for the first time since 2001
(at Sunderland, League Cup SF)
• Sunderland - first win over United for 14 years
• Only the second United defeat in last 10 League Cup SF ties
Last defeat at this stage: 2004-05
• Stoke - first league win over United for 20 years
• 1989-90 - the last time that United lost as many as 8 of their opening 24 games in a league season. They lost 11 times and finished 13th
• 2003-04 - as of 1st Feb: lost more games than in any Premier League season when they lost 9 in total
• Fulham - first time they had avoided defeat at Old Trafford for 10 years
• Olympiakos - 1st Greek side ever to beat United in European competition and first time Manutd will concede 3 penalties against Liverpool in History.
All in 8 months.
So whats changed in the last 8 months, its certainly not the players or tools...
[Edited on 19-03-2014 by Steve]
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mwg
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Moyes needs his tools sharpening
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