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Originally posted by Davey_boy
but my mates CTR ran a 14.3 standard, which i thought was prity damn good.
[Edited on 27-11-2006 by Davey_boy]
thats the biggest piss take ive read in this thread. simply put, no it didnt. never, ever.
yes it, using a wrist watch 
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I agree with Nismo throughout this thread.
Why is it everyone slates the performance of the CTR yet not the ITR when in fact there isn't difference on the road in a straight line.
yes there is, the teg is 220bhp and the civic is 197bhp, so there is a slight difference, 0-100 in the teg is alot different, maybe not on paper but my mates teg leaves the civic, the teg's handling is in a world of it's own imo. so there is a difference.
DC5 is 220bhp but is still slighly slower than the DC2 which has 187bhp because of the weight difference. On the road there is pretty much nothing between the DC2, DC5 and CTR. Im aware there is a difference in the handling, I've owned a DC2 and driven a a DC5; which is why if you check my original post, I mentioned straight line performance only
There is a difference between a UKDM DC2 and a DC5, JDM DC2 is similar to DC5.
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Cupra Steve
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Originally posted by Davey_boy
There is absolutly no difference what so ever between an integra and a civic, its all down to the driver when the performance figers are that close, the dc5 is the same engine as the civic the K20a, its just got a lighter fly wheel, and a slightly different gear ratio iirc. Never quarter miled mine asyet, but my mates CTR ran a 14.3 standard, which i thought was prity damn good.
[Edited on 27-11-2006 by Davey_boy]
No it didn't. That is not possible.
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Cupra Steve
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Originally posted by Robin
I've also driven Vtec cars, and found the same, they're alright in the right rev range, but often, when you want to overtake, you're not in the power band, and there's no instant power. it'd be alright if the vtec was ALWAYS engaged, but it's not.
that's what most people have the issue with, i think.
Vtec engages at that point for a reason, otherwise it would be lumpy on tick over, like a 2.0 with race cams, plus it would drink fuel, the vtecs i have driven i haven't had a problem keeping it in vtec, tbh it's hard to come out of it, the sound is just incredible and you just want to keep it pinned!!!!
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topshot_2k
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ahhh the whiplash inducing VTec
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Steve
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that tiger tank that got stuck on the bridge had VTEC, the driver went to simply drive in front of the bridge but VTEC kicked in and sent him over the edge 
[Edited on 28-11-2006 by Steve]
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PMSL
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Cupra Steve
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OK so there are some comedians on here!!!
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topshot_2k
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Maybe its because people go on about the VTEc like its some sort of jet engine
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
Maybe its because people go on about the VTEc like its some sort of jet engine
oh, well i don't, but i bloody love it and it is addictive.
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what is addictive? having to rev the crap out the car to make it have anypower while producing a noise other road users hear and immediately think your a nob head? its not a turbo, there is no kick, its just a stupid noise
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BabyBlade
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Originally posted by muppetsport
what is addictive? having to rev the crap out the car to make it have anypower while producing a noise other road users hear and immediately think your a nob head? its not a turbo, there is no kick, its just a stupid noise
TBH I'd rather the noise of the v-tec to the p-tish of a turbo, not saying yours does this, but a few of my mates have cars with dump valves and its just wrong.
Other road users shouldn't really hear it on the open road, unless its being driven hard through town, in which case they need shooting anyway
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Steve
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i find listening to wasps addictive 
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Originally posted by BabyBlade
Other road users shouldn't really hear it on the open road, unless its being driven hard through town, in which case they need shooting anyway
every ctr i ever see is having 9000rpm down the centre of town, day or night, as if its cool. its just rediculous.
yes i have a dump valve, turbo cars need them, and yes its loud, but its serving a purpose and it isnt there for the sound. also, you'd never knew it had one or was a turbo as it never gets driven hard unlike ctr's in residential areas.
i like wasps also steve, such a lovely non-irritating noise
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Originally posted by muppetsport
every ctr i ever see is having 9000rpm down the centre of town, day or night, as if its cool. its just rediculous.
Yeah that is wrong.
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Tom
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Originally posted by Robin
The thing with Vtec (In my experience) is that if you drop out of the power band, its like driving a boring, normal equivilant engine.
My dad had an Accord Type R, for a week, when he was deciding what car to have, and he (and my brother) both said it was slow as buggery out of 'the zone', but quick in it (although not very easy to keep it in the power)
I've also driven Vtec cars, and found the same, they're alright in the right rev range, but often, when you want to overtake, you're not in the power band, and there's no instant power. it'd be alright if the vtec was ALWAYS engaged, but it's not.
that's what most people have the issue with, i think.
If you can't be bothered to use gears it's not gonna be fast, i can't see the issue with having to rev it to make it go fast it's fun, if you are having a race (which I don't condone and seems as if other don't) then you would more than likely know to be revving it above 5kish ffs
Please lets not get so judgemental about one or two or 3 cars.
Apprantly every BMW is driven by a tosser, simple fact of the matter is that is not true, same goes for ctr drivers or corsa drivers. I have seen perhaps 8 ctr's in the past week, maybe one of them was giving it beans, so what, again alot of young impressionable lads who don;t know much about cars think that because they own a ctr they are the daddies, please pop along to a cruise and have a conversation with an 18 yr old sat in a corsa with £5k spent on stick on bits and neons and tell me they know more or think less of there cars though
I am not sticking up for any car owner type or having a go, all i'm saying is not everyone who owns a bmw or ctr or corsa is a dick.
I don't see the need for arguing like a bunch of women about it also, I really like revving the tits of a car as it just does it for me, as for other turbo's does it for them, is it not ok to like both a little bit though
[Edited on 28-11-2006 by Tom]
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BabyBlade
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Good way to sum up and end this thread imo 
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Cupra Steve
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VTEC is just like having racing cams. Except it's drivable, so the sound if just the same as any NA engine with cams, So considering muppetsport said in another thread he'd now prefer a 2.0 16v on tb's (that would sound like a vtec) over his turbo he is contradicting himself slightly.
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Originally posted by Cupra Steve
VTEC is just like having racing cams. Except it's drivable, so the sound if just the same as any NA engine with cams, So considering muppetsport said in another thread he'd now prefer a 2.0 16v on tb's (that would sound like a vtec) over his turbo he is contradicting himself slightly.
negative, there is a world of difference between the noise of an xe on tb's to a stupid silly wasp noise. also, the xe on tb's makes that lovely noise all through the rev range, and will also pull well all through the rev range
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Originally posted by muppetsport
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Originally posted by Cupra Steve
VTEC is just like having racing cams. Except it's drivable, so the sound if just the same as any NA engine with cams, So considering muppetsport said in another thread he'd now prefer a 2.0 16v on tb's (that would sound like a vtec) over his turbo he is contradicting himself slightly.
negative, there is a world of difference between the noise of an xe on tb's to a stupid silly wasp noise. also, the xe on tb's makes that lovely noise all through the rev range, and will also pull well all through the rev range
But it won't be as drivable round town etc....
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http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1858276319151553366&q=corsa
wow, ctr's really do out handle corsa's round tracks, not.
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topshot_2k
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Originally posted by Cupra Steve
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Originally posted by muppetsport
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Originally posted by Cupra Steve
VTEC is just like having racing cams. Except it's drivable, so the sound if just the same as any NA engine with cams, So considering muppetsport said in another thread he'd now prefer a 2.0 16v on tb's (that would sound like a vtec) over his turbo he is contradicting himself slightly.
negative, there is a world of difference between the noise of an xe on tb's to a stupid silly wasp noise. also, the xe on tb's makes that lovely noise all through the rev range, and will also pull well all through the rev range
But it won't be as drivable round town etc....
if you want a car thats driveable around town buy a nissan micra or something. The noise CTR makes is gay. end of.
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can't watch it as i'm at work, i'm not saying CTR's are great, but vtec is bloody awesome!
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why is it so 'awesome'
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BabyBlade
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Originally posted by muppetsport
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1858276319151553366&q=corsa
wow, ctr's really do out handle corsa's round tracks, not.
I hope that was standard for standard
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