Ian
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He's right, it might be blag.
Just like it might be wheel figures.
If you can't make a decision on balance of probability you're not going to accept yet another forum post which makes more sense than you do.
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John
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Instead of phoning all these random companies phone vauxhall and ask them the flywheel bhp of a 1.2 corsa c sxi.
When they come back and say it's close to 79 and not 100 you can apologise.
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Colin
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LOL is this guy still going.
Buddey before you go setting up websites you should at least research your site content & get it right.
You've wasted about 6 months of Chris's life with this dribble....admit your wrong, apologise & learn what your talking about!
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Sunz
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Are some very ugly vauxhall owners.
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Behr
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 that was an entertaining read, the results are definatly at the fly.
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dean101287
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Who is wrong and who is right? I got lost.
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Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by little_duke
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Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by little_duke
well spoke ste 
Well spoke what, he's 100% in the wrong.
Just to confirm, you are 100% in the wrong, how can so many people think their cars make so much more power over standard 
oh what a suprise,john quotes me AGAIN 
i ment well spoke for sticking up for himself. right or wrong!
brown nose
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Nath
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WHAT
A
COOL
THREAD
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Eck
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Awesome thread I think folk should be concentrating more on the graph itself instead of the figures. Surely useable power over a better rev range is better than peak power for a pub figure
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Mobby
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finally read the whole thread and tbh im amazed, its probably the only thread which has 6 pages that iv fully read every single post!!
I cant believe ste2k7 is so wrong, if a administrator of a forum i was on got a fact so wrong i would be very ashamed. well done ian, you done this cs premium member very proud lol
my eyes are aching
[Edited on 30-09-2008 by mobby]
[Edited on 30-09-2008 by mobby]
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12xe
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figures are at the flywheel lol just read the whole thread!!
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Tom
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TBH you may aswell just leave him to it, as he's never gonna be able to comprehend the facts stated in here in a month of sundays 
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chris_uk
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this is out of my hands now as far as im concerned..
if ste cant use the information in front of his eyes to work out the facts then its his downfall..
he knows himself that he is wrong but probably just doesnt want to admit it, but by not admitting this its making himself look worse..
worst thing was be banned me from his site for making this allegation. (sp)
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Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
And if you think a Corsa SXi has more power than my 1600 then you need to get off the internet and drive more cars.
FLOL, quote of this, most ridiculous, post
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Robbo
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Question... my old Golf GTI (standard Mk V) "has" 197bhp/200PS... is this at the wheels or at the fly?
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Ste L
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
worst thing was be banned me from his site for making this allegation. (sp)
banned from a site for disagreeing with an admin member who's wrong - sound like a great site
i wont be signing up any time soon
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Ian
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I think it's more likely you were banned for being smug and obtuse Chris.
I got called a bad site admin for not deleting this for the record.
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DannyB
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I got called a bad site admin for not deleting this for the record.
Its your site you can do what you want and its not like anything bad was said, just a misunderstanding.
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Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
I think it's more likely you were banned for being smug and obtuse Chris.
I got called a bad site admin for not deleting this for the record.
tbh it wasn't small bickering, this involved dyno's, total vauxhall magazine and alot of accusations that i personally wanted to get to the bottom of, i now know alot of the readings are fly which i didnt know.
Its also been the most interesting read this week week
[Edited on 30-09-2008 by mobby]
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richc
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Right when manufactorers say their BHP of their cars, they are talking fly bhp. This is to make them sound better - a marketing plause.
So all the powers quoted are fly
End of
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Ian
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I don't agree that it's entirely a marketing plause. If they're bench testing the engine, which is the only way to get accurate figures, then they would only have fly figures available to them. More convention than sales pitch although yes, the fly figure sounds more impressive. Particularly if you mistake it for wheel
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Gareth
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wow carnt believe this is still going on!
can remember reading the original thread ages ago hahaha
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chip
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quote:
Originally posted by ste2k07
im sorry but im not going to believe CHIP's posts as for all i know it could be a member doing this to back chris up.
So for clarification i will call total vauxhall and hi-tech AGAIN tomorrow to what must seem to "tripple" check the results and where they were read from.....
http://www.vauxhall-sport-forum.com/phpBB2/hello-corsa-sport-retard-t8285.html
[Edited on 01-10-2008 by chip]
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chip
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quote:
Originally posted by richc
Right when manufactorers say their BHP of their cars, they are talking fly bhp. This is to make them sound better - a marketing plause.
So all the powers quoted are fly
End of
Flywheel figures are qouted, as flywheel figures are what is measures on TUV approved engine dyno's in the first place.
Thats the power the engine actually makes, so thats the power they qoute, simple as that really.
Otherwise they would have to qoute different figures for auto and manual on the same engine as the auto has bigger drivetrain losses.
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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by chip
http://www.vauxhall-sport-forum.com/phpBB2/hello-corsa-sport-retard-t8285.html
Corsa Sport retard? He's not a genuine one, this one is just visiting
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