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Nic Barnes

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5th Feb 10 at 16:12

tbh saying i am scottish is about the biggest insult anyone has ever said to me laugh out loud.

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5th Feb 10 at 16:14

Notes it has Cumbria in profile...

Doh

R1CH

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5th Feb 10 at 16:56

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
is it jut me that thinks redtops arnt that fast

+1

I made Phi's old corsa into a 2.0 xe, drove it for about 3 miles and realised that!

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5th Feb 10 at 17:13

got a 163 bhp corsa redtop and tbh theyre not exactly slow
on a private road ofcourse
had the lead on :
civic ep3 type R
clio 197
civic b16 vti-s
106 gti's
corsa vxr
astra VXR

not exactly saying these are unreal fast cars but there not slow depends what you call fast a zonda is fast but doesnt make a XE slow liek a 1 liter saxo?

TBH rather have my old red n reg corsa
than sit and toss off to a ep3 or a mk4 golf gti T

**awaits flak lol**

Nic Barnes

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5th Feb 10 at 17:23

i wouldnt waste petrol racing a zonda.

R1CH

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5th Feb 10 at 17:25

mk2 GTE Astra goes better! especially the early ones

weddy1988

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5th Feb 10 at 17:27

yeah but the point is its what you call fast to make it fair u would have to do it on a scale also what do you call fast?
a bugatti because it does 200mph or a tuned lotus thts unreal accelaration

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5th Feb 10 at 17:28

quote:
Originally posted by R1CH
mk2 GTE Astra goes better! especially the early ones

yeah but my corsa has a mk2 20xe engine out of a astra gte and i run no powersteering so thts bount to make mines faster in theroy? iffff i'm lighter any way

Nic Barnes

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5th Feb 10 at 18:00

corsa will be a bit quicker than a mk2 astra gte 16v.

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5th Feb 10 at 18:02

xe's are not that fast but they match pretty much all the hot hatches of today over a 1/4 mile or around 15 secs from the factory so there not bad just people overate them bit like they do type r's

type r's are a good car but to me its clever marketing and they was one of the first small hatches to have around 200 bhp from the factory now its just run of the mill........ but because they was one of the first lads went ape shit over them vtec baby it takes you to the moon

[Edited on 05-02-2010 by corsa120]

Nic Barnes

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5th Feb 10 at 18:04

thing is though, a type-r is a very good all round car.

R1CH

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5th Feb 10 at 18:05

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
corsa will be a bit quicker than a mk2 astra gte 16v.

early astra's only 1022kg curb weight!

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5th Feb 10 at 18:07

basicly all down to what you want ...its diffrent horses for diffrent courses

2k for a good corsa redtop on a w reg not badly donw or 7k for a decent type r?

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5th Feb 10 at 18:08

quote:
Originally posted by weddy1988

yeah but my corsa has a mk2 20xe engine out of a astra gte and i run no powersteering so thts bount to make mines faster in theroy? iffff i'm lighter any way

I dont think you'd notice the difference on the road power wise with ot without power steering

DAZ1985

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5th Feb 10 at 18:09

Who cares about bhp when its torque that counts?

corsa120

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5th Feb 10 at 18:09

yes they are nic but they are also alot newer and the engine technology is around what 12-13 years newer plus the added bonus of nothing being weathered if you like or corroding away so the type r should be alot better

so when you put it this way an xe corsa aint bad in stock form really

[Edited on 05-02-2010 by corsa120]

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5th Feb 10 at 18:10

quote:
Originally posted by DAZ1985
Who cares about bhp when its torque that counts?

yeah buy a diesel .. will beat them all.

Nic Barnes

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5th Feb 10 at 18:11

quote:
Originally posted by R1CH

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
corsa will be a bit quicker than a mk2 astra gte 16v.

early astra's only 1022kg curb weight!

heaviest corsa with electric everything is what 940? lighter ones are 880 ish?

weddy1988

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5th Feb 10 at 18:11

yes but powersteering saps power

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5th Feb 10 at 18:13

quote:
Originally posted by weddy1988
yes but powersteering saps power

not if you dinny have it

Nic Barnes

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5th Feb 10 at 18:13

quote:
Originally posted by corsa120
yes they are nic but they are also alot newer and the engine technology is around what 12-13 years newer plus the added bonus of nothing being weathered if you like or corroding away so the type r should be alot better

so when you put it this way an xe corsa aint bad in stock form really

[Edited on 05-02-2010 by corsa120]

but thats it exactly. its newer cars, more modern technology and still an old banger of an engine in a crappy corsa is a great laugh against them. but, newer more modern chassis are far better design. so although a corsa maybe quicker in a straight line, its the rest of the stuff civic type-r's are better at from factory. as you say, newer more modern technology.

DAZ1985

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5th Feb 10 at 18:18

k20 is a good engine, i mean could you imagine an ariel atom with a redtop in? wouldnt be the same thing really

Nic Barnes

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5th Feb 10 at 18:19

well no daz. as its an engine from 1986-87

infact a lot of the engines people use for conversions will be older than they are.

[Edited on 05-02-2010 by Nic Barnes]

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5th Feb 10 at 18:21

chevrolet still use them on their race cars though iirc?

Nic Barnes

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5th Feb 10 at 18:22

restricted to production engines in class though?

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