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Matt L
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4th Jun 13 at 12:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whats the blue thing in passenger footwell?
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quote:
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whats the blue thing in passenger footwell?


Acusump. Dry sump
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acusump - NOT a dry sump

We dont have it anyway, but the car will be getting dry sumped.

The acusump system is basically a presurised supply (reserve) of oil that gets pumped in if a slow oil pressure is detected - to keep the engine lubricated.

I'm not a fan of them, but i've never used them.
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Sorry if this question has been asked already, might have missed it as I'm on the blackberry.
How exactly did the roll happen on the gtr? Did it just get sideways then find grip and rollover? Or hit an apex which helped lift it? Just been watching the video trying to work it out
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Fee was speeding and did a scandinavian flick down a hill

Basically.
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fuck off with your trolling 3Cm.

Birchieboy - She doesnt know exactly what happened, nor does the video give much insight (brakes, gears, steering)

BUT this is what I think happend...

She came round the long sweeping right at 110mph, a bit too hot and took a strange line in (tight to the right) which took her over the kerb that has a big hole (you can see/hear the car react over it - car unsettled). I think she then snatches at 3rd gearwhilst possibly standing on the brakes. I think this locks up the rear and the car wiggles a bit. The camber of the track then falls away to the outside (making the rear want to go that way), whilst she is steering into a slide. The front left then hits the raised MSA sausage kerb and pitches the car into the air. The rest is then over pretty quickly

[Edited on 06-06-2013 by AK]
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Thanks AK.
From the in car footage (again watching in on my small screen blackberry) it doesn't look like there was any major drama, the car just casually roles over :/
Was there much mechanic damage? Or mainly just the shell?
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just the roof/bonnet really

Engine is fine
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May sound rediculous to someone with mechanical knowledge but would the engine being upside down and still running for a short time cause any kind of damage ?
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if it ran for a long time, yes probably, but sump has a lot of capacity, and has a windage tray, baffles and gates... so wouldnt just empty. The revs were low too.

Not ideal, but its been checked and all is sweet.
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Shouldnt you have some sort of auto cut off for these situations?
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like what?

An auto upside down cut-off? I've never heard of one of them.

An oil pressure triggered cut off, yes.

There are the required cut offs in the car and on the outside if thats what you are referring to... stops all power (pumps etc). Same with fire system.

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quote:
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An auto upside down cut-off? I've never heard of one of them.



Gap in the market
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Panic button imo
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you still need to be able to press it.... which isnt easy when rolling.

A kill switch is basically a button in some cars.
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I understand the kill switch theng, i'm just surprised there isnt something out there that auto shuts off after a second of being inverted
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an oil pressure cut off. They exist
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A mercury switch would do it would it not? Mercury switch makes when car is upright, on it's roof, breaks contact?
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quote:
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A mercury switch would do it would it not? Mercury switch makes when car is upright, on it's roof, breaks contact?


Dont be stealing my idea!
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stable when jumping kerbs?
mercury likely to leak?
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Not if its in a decent container.

If oil pressure works though then why bother with anything else
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It wouldn't be difficult (I'd be really surprised if there isn't one) to make a cheap switch that would be tolerant of sideways forces and bumps but cut the power when upside down.

Definitely a gap in the market if it's not already sold as a product for cars.
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Nothing pops up in google.

Would just need a simple Mercury switch and a N/C relay. Could be made out of bits from maplins.
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Nothing for boats either which I thought there would be
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Looking forward to new build pictures

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