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Originally posted by Adam Kindness
i feel the 14.4 would be hard to replicate
Nova with full interior and 17's 
once i get the daft bugger rebuilt i'll get some better times 
i can only tell on here wot the print out from santa pod RWYB on sun 27th April Shows, and what the car had in it at the point it was taken up the strip.
The nova is up at the pod this sunday at the RWYB event, will post up details after that. Now the car is running bout 165bhp, has a fully stripped out rear, power cap, full zaust with back box only, phase 1 tuning kit from wallace performance, my brother believes a 14.2 should be possible.
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Originally posted by Tom D
Nova's are sh1t, yes they can go a tiny bit faster than corsa's but corsa is an alround better package.
i agree, although i dont think i could say they are ALL 'shit'. The majority tho, yes .
But 0.3s up the 1/4.....i wouldnt call that so "tiny". In fact, quite a noticeable difference, which is what this post is all about.
Matt
[Edited on 30-07-2003 by MattyB]
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Originally posted by Adam Kindness
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by Adam Kindness
and again.....
my old 1.4 sport would beat Nova GTE/GSi's on the strip....... also Corsa GSi's mind
i hear another Corsa V Nova day cominf on....
i do agree the cars are much the same..... corsa is just a new nova..... half the bloody parts are from the nova anyway 
i do not doubt this occured at all, but a STANDARD corsa 1.4 16 would not beat a decent Standard nova GSi/GTE/corsa GSi. In fact, a standard 1.4 16v would struggle to pull past decent but standard nova 1.4 SR. Although book figures would suggest otherwise, i'm talkin bout real races here.
Matt
Real Races
so.... a timed 1/4 mile strip isnt a real race? what is.... an off the lights blat in a city centre
sorry i didnt put myself clearly. I just meant by that, that it doesnt all come down to book figures, because as we all know, in reality, these are often incorrect.
Was ur 1.4 16v totally std, and u beat corsa 1.6 16v? Coz if this is the case, i'm sure u'll agree, that unless ur side of the strip was down hill and u had a tail wind, the other driver(s) must have been crap.
Matt
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by Adam Kindness
and again.....
my old 1.4 sport would beat Nova GTE/GSi's on the strip....... also Corsa GSi's mind
i hear another Corsa V Nova day cominf on....
i do agree the cars are much the same..... corsa is just a new nova..... half the bloody parts are from the nova anyway
i do not doubt this occured at all, but a STANDARD corsa 1.4 16 would not beat a decent Standard nova GSi/GTE/corsa GSi. In fact, a standard 1.4 16v would struggle to pull past decent but standard nova 1.4 SR. Although book figures would suggest otherwise, i'm talkin bout real races here.
Matt
Real Races
so.... a timed 1/4 mile strip isnt a real race? what is.... an off the lights blat in a city centre
yes Adam. quickest down union street
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quote:
Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by Adam Kindness
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by Adam Kindness
and again.....
my old 1.4 sport would beat Nova GTE/GSi's on the strip....... also Corsa GSi's mind
i hear another Corsa V Nova day cominf on....
i do agree the cars are much the same..... corsa is just a new nova..... half the bloody parts are from the nova anyway
i do not doubt this occured at all, but a STANDARD corsa 1.4 16 would not beat a decent Standard nova GSi/GTE/corsa GSi. In fact, a standard 1.4 16v would struggle to pull past decent but standard nova 1.4 SR. Although book figures would suggest otherwise, i'm talkin bout real races here.
Matt
Real Races
so.... a timed 1/4 mile strip isnt a real race? what is.... an off the lights blat in a city centre
sorry i didnt put myself clearly. I just meant by that, that it doesnt all come down to book figures, because as we all know, in reality, these are often incorrect.
Was ur 1.4 16v totally std, and u beat corsa 1.6 16v? Coz if this is the case, i'm sure u'll agree, that unless ur side of the strip was down hill and u had a tail wind, the other driver(s) must have been crap.
Matt
please tell me the book figure for a corsa with no interior and a 2.0L engine running 165hp
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His corsa was 114 bhp
Nova's are pooooo, used to have one myself so I know
.3 up the 1/4 mile is not large, could come down to driver skill 
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0.3s on the 1/4 mile is huge
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Originally posted by vibrio
0.3s on the 1/4 mile is huge
yes.
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Originally posted by Adam Kindness
na.... even my bird at the time beat ICY's older bro is his nova
my 1.4 16v wasnt quite std..... cams, PMC manifold, Unichip
was running more power than std GSi
exactly.
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by Adam Kindness
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by Adam Kindness
and again.....
my old 1.4 sport would beat Nova GTE/GSi's on the strip....... also Corsa GSi's mind
i hear another Corsa V Nova day cominf on....
i do agree the cars are much the same..... corsa is just a new nova..... half the bloody parts are from the nova anyway
i do not doubt this occured at all, but a STANDARD corsa 1.4 16 would not beat a decent Standard nova GSi/GTE/corsa GSi. In fact, a standard 1.4 16v would struggle to pull past decent but standard nova 1.4 SR. Although book figures would suggest otherwise, i'm talkin bout real races here.
Matt
Real Races
so.... a timed 1/4 mile strip isnt a real race? what is.... an off the lights blat in a city centre
sorry i didnt put myself clearly. I just meant by that, that it doesnt all come down to book figures, because as we all know, in reality, these are often incorrect.
Was ur 1.4 16v totally std, and u beat corsa 1.6 16v? Coz if this is the case, i'm sure u'll agree, that unless ur side of the strip was down hill and u had a tail wind, the other driver(s) must have been crap.
Matt
please tell me the book figure for a corsa with no interior and a 2.0L engine running 165hp
no i was only talkin bout factory built cars (GSi's GTE's etc). ie: the race between kindness's 1.4 16v and a nova SR (untill i found out his was heavily tuned).
Matt
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OK, can someone answer me this Q
Does this Nova Owner get his 14.2 (?) on the 17"s when stripped?? Or was he on smaller wheels?
Will he be running the 17"s at the next strip event and hoping to beat that time?
PS, corsa 1.4 16v Vs Nova 1.4 8v up a drap strip, both standard, would be very close. However, i have not seen a 1.4 8v SRi beat a 1.4 16v corsa (standard) up the strip yet. I raced one, with my 15"s, ind kit n rear box (he had about the same, peco exhaust, K+N but was on standard alloys) and beat him twice by a comfortable margin.
[Edited on 30-07-2003 by Daimo B]
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My Ka recorded a 14.4 quarter mile last week.
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This thread is gHey.
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Im Ghey too
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Originally posted by Daimo B
OK, can someone answer me this Q
Does this Nova Owner get his 14.2 (?) on the 17"s when stripped?? Or was he on smaller wheels?
Will he be running the 17"s at the next strip event and hoping to beat that time?
PS, corsa 1.4 16v Vs Nova 1.4 8v up a drap strip, both standard, would be very close. However, i have not seen a 1.4 8v SRi beat a 1.4 16v corsa (standard) up the strip yet. I raced one, with my 15"s, ind kit n rear box (he had about the same, peco exhaust, K+N but was on standard alloys) and beat him twice by a comfortable margin.
[Edited on 30-07-2003 by Daimo B]
This nova has done a standing 1/4 at santa pod, with full interior, std engine, std zaust on 17"s @14.4s.
The same nova, but now fully stripped, power cap, phase 1 and still on 17", i reckon, is likely to get closer to 14.2s at santa pod 1.4 RWYB this sunday. The 14.2 has not been acheieved yet, results will be posted on sunday. The above posts say this.
And we are agreed on ur second point. Nova SR's and SRi's, although down on power to the corsa, stay with em due to being lighter.
PS: I'm sure the rollin radius of ur 15"s (probably 45 or 50 tyres) was the same if not less than the nova on 14"s (likely to have been 60 or 65 profile tyres)
Matt
[Edited on 30-07-2003 by MattyB]
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There is no way a nova with minimal engine mods can do a 14.2 on 17"s up the strip!!! Either fcuked timing or more has been done to that engine that you are aware of.
Im sorry fella, somethings wrong. It won't be able to to it that fast. Even teh 2.0ltire Turbo or B00ST's corsa with 18"s was only doing a 14.4!!! And thats got nearly doublt the bhp!!!
I will remind u to post on monday the times.
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hmmmm BOOOOST saw that go up the strip... wet myself
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Originally posted by Daimo B
There is no way a nova with minimal engine mods can do a 14.2 on 17"s up the strip!!! Either fcuked timing or more has been done to that engine that you are aware of.
Im sorry fella, somethings wrong. It won't be able to to it that fast. Even teh 2.0ltire Turbo or B00ST's corsa with 18"s was only doing a 14.4!!! And thats got nearly doublt the bhp!!!
I will remind u to post on monday the times.
As i have said, the 14.2s is wot i believe the nova will do, it has not been proved yet. I Can however proove the 14.4, as the timin sheet from April is sittin here, but then again, it is only my word tellin u it had full interior (no pics from day).
It now has alot lot less weight, 10-15bhp more, which should at LEAST give early 14.3's, if not wonder into late 14.2s
The engine has been rolling roaded at 153bhp when it was first fitted, but not since then. It is a very strong engine, and does seem to have an edge on other nova valvers. Times/Timing sheets are provided by Santa Pod.
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Hmmm......14.4 from a c20let with nearly 300bhp u say? I realise its on 18"s......but i feel it should do it quicker than this.
This would suggest that this car is the same over a 1/4 as a std 20xe nova?? Sorry mate, but i say thats fcuked timing?? I've been out in AP racings 280bhp corsa, and my gosh, that would storm all over this xe nova up the strip..........
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Originally posted by Sethion33
at the end of the day, the corsa is a girls car, the nova's old, they both dont handle standard, dont see why the novas gettin slated cos the corsa was derived from the nova, at the end of the day lets have a look at the condition of corsa in about 10years time
My corsa is 10yrs old and is still in very good condition, never been welded and solid underneath.
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by Daimo B
OK, can someone answer me this Q
Does this Nova Owner get his 14.2 (?) on the 17"s when stripped?? Or was he on smaller wheels?
Will he be running the 17"s at the next strip event and hoping to beat that time?
PS, corsa 1.4 16v Vs Nova 1.4 8v up a drap strip, both standard, would be very close. However, i have not seen a 1.4 8v SRi beat a 1.4 16v corsa (standard) up the strip yet. I raced one, with my 15"s, ind kit n rear box (he had about the same, peco exhaust, K+N but was on standard alloys) and beat him twice by a comfortable margin.
[Edited on 30-07-2003 by Daimo B]
This nova has done a standing 1/4 at santa pod, with full interior, std engine, std zaust on 17"s @14.4s.
The same nova, but now fully stripped, power cap, phase 1 and still on 17", i reckon, is likely to get closer to 14.2s at santa pod 1.4 RWYB this sunday. The 14.2 has not been acheieved yet, results will be posted on sunday. The above posts say this.
And we are agreed on ur second point. Nova SR's and SRi's, although down on power to the corsa, stay with em due to being lighter.
PS: I'm sure the rollin radius of ur 15"s (probably 45 or 50 tyres) was the same if not less than the nova on 14"s (likely to have been 60 or 65 profile tyres)
Matt
[Edited on 30-07-2003 by MattyB]
it's still a fucking nova though. don;t matter what you do it's still a nova.
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MattyB do you still have the timing sheet there?? If so take a pic of it and let us all see for ourselfs.
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And you have a punto. No matter what u do, itsstill a punto.
So your point being?
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And you have a punto. No matter what u do, itsstill a punto.
So your point being?
yes no matter what I do it is still a punto. I have no problem with that statement. better than a nova no matter how quick it is
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I have a Laguna 2.0 8v - Its still as fast as my Corsa GSi was.
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