Robin
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
no the civic is the competitor, the integra is the competitor to the astra
Are you smoking crack?
Have you seen the size of the new Civic Steve?
I drove a 2.2 diesel one the other day, it's definitely not a Corsa sized car.
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John
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Steve managed to tell from a picture of one of the wheels it was the same size as the corsa and it had a better interior.
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Mark.W
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spank me thats damn sexyyy
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Steve
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quote: Originally posted by VXR
Someones sent me an email about this post.
This guy knows his modern Vauxhalls as well as i know my Corsas, so i'll take anything he says to be the truth. His car is also used by 1 of the major tuning firms as a demo/developer car....
I was going to quote bits, but im on a timescale here, things to do, dogs and cats to see
(please note the brake size, then think of the usual Corsa/Nova larger upgrade......). They must be awful...
"as for the brakes they are a 308mm vented disk up front with a larger caliper, the reason for being blue again is cost, as being built in an opel factory they can dictate those small things on being cost effective, as for upgrades, there is going to be the AP's as per the astra, possibly 343mm vented disk and 4 pots but in saying that the standard more than does the job for a 190ps powerplant, brembos as standard would push the price up and its intended to undercut the clio 197.
Mind you the new leon cupra was meant to have brembos fitted as standard but where found not to be up for the job so the R32 single pots with larger disks brought in and are much better for that car over the 4 pot brembos.
Diffuser was found to creat down pressure during wind tunnel testing so its more than just a bolt on, i seen all the range colour range a couple of weeks ago and it is a well put together little, well not so little anymore car which will most probably out handle a standard set up astra through the twists and bends, the recaros are most impressive and more supportive than what we have fitted in the astra,
my wife has ordered one in black which in this range is the colour to go for
you can put any of that info up to shut this Steve up as he really has no idea what he is on about, more so it appears he may be a tad jealous he isn't getting one to be slagging it off so much without coming across one"
Amen Mr VXR owner...
pmsl someone else with the blinkers on
quote: my wife has ordered one in black
if you love a car you will defend it to the death on matter what
he must be a genius to order and praise a car that hasnt come out or even tested and reviewed yet.
probably the same guy that daimo there was such a thing as performance retarding mats, apparently the guy that knew that was the most knowledgeable person on earth
[Edited on 07-03-2007 by Steve]
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neil h
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either the bloke sat in the car in that pic is really small. or the steering wheel is genuinely as big as it looks
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deano87
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quote: Originally posted by neil h
either the bloke sat in the car in that pic is really small. or the steering wheel is genuinely as big as it looks
Yes, I am pretty small. The steering wheel was big nor small. I'd say the same size as a Corsa B post-97 with airbag (3 spoke one). Definitely not as big as the 2 spoke pre-97.
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Daimo B
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
[if you love a car you will defend it to the death on matter what
he must be a genius to order and praise a car that hasnt come out or even tested and reviewed yet.
probably the same guy that daimo there was such a thing as performance retarding mats, apparently the guy that knew that was the most knowledgeable person on earth
[Edited on 07-03-2007 by Steve]
Great English there steve. Still clutching at those straws..
Nope, the matt informant was Donnas brother who works for Vauxhall.
This is just a normal person..
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
i cant elp but get the feeling people are worshipping this car for the very reason that its just a corsa, if this would have been a peugeot, it would have been put down
WELCOME TO FUCKING CORSASPORT YOU STUPID CUNT
[Edited on 08-03-2007 by Cybermonkey]
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Steve
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i just noticed i said elp
alright, i dont like it everyone knows that now, no need to mention it again
[Edited on 08-03-2007 by Steve]
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Cybermonkey
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good, then you can stop spamming a good thread.
you're a lovely lad
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Dean_W
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This started as a good thread........
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deano87
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quote: Originally posted by Dean_W
This started as a good thread........
Hmmm should I delete and start again?!
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AK
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one thing that strikes me (from pics on page 1)
the car looks really high and narrow
For me.... a hot htach MUST have 4 wheels right at the corners, be wide, and low.
still undecided about it. Would def NOT buy one new.
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Dean_W
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quote: Originally posted by deano87
quote: Originally posted by Dean_W
This started as a good thread........
Hmmm should I delete and start again?!
It'd still get filled with Steves crap.
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Steve
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if you start agin i wont post in it
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deano87
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I can see what you mean AK, it did come across as a big car.
But then again, if Vauxhall made it like a traditional hot hatch, it would get slatted in the press for not having as much space as the rivals.
Although, the boot was surprisingly small in it. Loads of rear leg room though unless the seats are all the way back, which is a long way!
[Edited on 08-03-2007 by deano87]
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deano87
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
if you start agin i wont post in it
Trouble is then we've lost everyone's valid comments
meh, I'll leave it.
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AK
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suppose... they have to make cars that care really 4/5 seater, have space, have the toys, have the comfort, safety etc.
They cant be as focussed as i'd like them to be as Betty from No 87 wouldnt like it that way
Might look more appealing to me when lowered, on white 5 spokes.... stripped out :O
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quote: Originally posted by AK
one thing that strikes me (from pics on page 1)
the car looks really high and narrow
For me.... a hot htach MUST have 4 wheels right at the corners, be wide, and low.
still undecided about it. Would def NOT buy one new.
Totally agree, which is why i say most new not hatches look like mini mpvs, ie high n narrow.
Surely Vauxhall have the meriva for small and practical, why can't the corsa be a bit smaller / wider.
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DBenson
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quote: Originally posted by AK
They cant be as focussed as i'd like them to be as Betty from No 87 wouldnt like it that way
pmsl
quote: Originally posted by AK
Might look more appealing to me when lowered, on white 5 spokes.... stripped out :O
Yeah have to agree with you here chap.
I do think IMO (no doubt I will get flamed for saying this) but I feel for what you get looks-wise [interior and exterior] (obviously I haven't driven one yet but I have had the VXR experience) that it is overpriced a bit. It's (feel free to correct me if I am wrong) £15,995 otr that's without adding the extras that most people would probably want ie:alloys, interior trims and the like... I just feel its not really worth that kind of money. And I recognise and respect the fact that vauxhalls have improved significantly especially since the VXR "brand" has been intoduced I just personally feel I would not spend that amount on a hot hatch/supermini (whatever you want to call it) vxr corsa. But then again everyone has different opinions etc, that's just mine....
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deano87
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The Meriva is much higher and narrower compared to that. Remember those pics of the car are on about a 3 inch platform.
I see what you mean DBenson but I think you'll be able to wangle extras and the dealership for not a lot extra. This is undercutting the Clio by quite a bit & with extras that you pay extra for in the Clio, such as the seats.
The Corsa VXR retails at £15,595 iirc.
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Rich_J_Williams
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Man the steering looks massive in that pic with you in deano!!!
other than the Bus like steering wheel i like it!
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RS6
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excellent thread nice one deano for getting the snaps and facts!
car seems really nice but out of my price league!
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Robin
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quote: Originally posted by Cupra Steve
Surely Vauxhall have the meriva for small and practical, why can't the corsa be a bit smaller / wider.
Are you serious?
My mum drives a Corsa C, she's 59. She could have had a Meriva, but she didn't like the look of it. Yes, it's more spacious, but it's uglier.
The Corsa outsold the Meriva for this exact reason, and Vauxhall aren't going to change a car which has to be -
a) spacious
b) practical
c) reliable
d) as good/better than the competition
to impress a few people who want it to be a 106 GTi
It's not predominantly a sports car, the 1.2 is the big seller, and the whole range, being based on the same car, have to look the same, bizarrely.
The new Corsa isn't as tall as it appears in pictures, yes it's taller than the C, but it has to be, because of the stupid pedestrian safety laws.
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deano87
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quote: Originally posted by Robin
The new Corsa isn't as tall as it appears in pictures, yes it's taller than the C, but it has to be, because of the stupid pedestrian safety laws.
And it's on a 5 inch platform!
Doesn't look that tall here after all.
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