Leighton
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Yep yep give me a call if you do go up then. Ill be around to help if needed.
You get 33mpg out of the astra? thats improved the average some what!! 
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
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Yeah reset the trip computer yesterday to see what it came out at. Its normally 20 because of all the commute work raggas.
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Ste
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Just to clear things up for everyone; the wagon WILL be reclassified by VOSA as an M1 class motorcaravan. It's primary purpose is recreation. Currently the wagon sits in the N1 category of goods vehicles. The recently issued IVA Scheme does indeed state that the motorhome now comes under the title of M1 (Special Purpose Vehicle) as a passenger vehicle rather than a goods vehicle.
The vehicle will be built to these guidelines:
http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/repository/M1%20Inspection%20Manual%20May%2009.pdf
It WILL NOT carry 'goods' as defined by VOSA. It therefore does not need an operators license.
It will enjoy being demoted from a class VII MOT to a class IV (the same as your personal car)
If VOSA do deem it to be a 'goods' vehicle then we can class it as a 'mobile project vehicle' as it will only be attending shows.
It can also be driven by a person who passed their test after 1997 and who does not have C1 on their driving license.
This is taken from DVLA document Special Licensing Arrangements for Drivers of Large Vehicles
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_10013774.pdf
2 Exempted goods vehicles
2.1 Holders of a full category B (car)
driving licence may drive any of
the large vehicles listed below:
{I have removed a - q as they aren't relevent to us.}
(r) mobile project vehicles – having
a maximum authorised mass
exceeding 3.5 tonnes and
constructed or adapted to carry
not more than 8 persons in
addition to the driver and carries
principally goods or burden
consisting of;
(i) play or educational equipment
and articles required in
connection with the use of
such equipment, or
(ii) articles required for the
purposes of display or of an
exhibition, and the primary
purpose of which is used as
a recreational, educational
or instructional facility when
stationary.
Drivers must be aged 21 and have held a
category B licence for at least 2 years. A
mobile project vehicle may only be driven
on behalf of a non-commercial body.
However, drivers who passed their car test
before 1 January 1997 are not subject to
these conditions.
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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Leighton
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Registered: 21st Feb 01
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Thats a bit of good news, think ill still get a C1 though.
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pow
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LOL that means I could drive it on a B licence (passed in 06) in may when I'm 21
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.dean.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ste W
It can also be driven by a person who passed their test after 1997 and who does not have C1 on their driving license.
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should that not be before|
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
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No - after.
If you passed after 1997 you won't have C1.
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Half Pint
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i passed feb 1997 and my card does not say C1???
have i been done by the DVLA?
bugger just seen the january 1997 bit 
[Edited on 10-11-2009 by Half Pint]
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Ian
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Yeah you missed big vehicles by a matter of weeks!!
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Ant B
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any updates on this ?
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Ian
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Only that I've lined up a few more things to buy.
We're on it this weekend so expect something Sat/Sun night. Can't really do live ones as we're away from the computer.
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Adge
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whats the next plans then?
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scunnylad
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan
quote:
Originally posted by scunnylad
be careful on the weight proportions on this, if its not evenly loaded it will cause big problems, argos delivery is a prime example. they put the first deliverys on last regardless of weight and size and go through a set of £800 king pins and £90 rear arb bushes a year !
£800 for king pins? Did u pluck that figure out of mid air lol.
no i dint pluck figures out of thin air but argos in scunthorpe run maybe 50 vehicles, changing king pins once a year maybe 2 on each vehicle you soon learn the common faults and the prices for cvs ( their vehicle leasers) i worked on soley dafs for over 4 years. but dont forget i was including labour, its 3 hours a side as the bushes what hold them in place are an arsehole to fit.
[Edited on 12-11-2009 by scunnylad]
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Dan
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3 hours a side being book time  if i took six hours to do a pair of king pins on anything, id be getting the sack lol.
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scunnylad
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have you done them ona lf before, no matter how u fit thr bushes they will need emerying down, pin lubing knockin in n out, emerying again n so on and so forth. while there out the w/brgs have to be replaced n bok time is 3.80 hour per side
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Ste
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Saturdays job - fit the door.
Sunday - back doors off, spin the box, fit the pod and cheeks.
Ian got nervous many times today.
No pictures between these two points because it was all hands on deck.
[Edited on 15-11-2009 by Ste W]
[Edited on 18-11-2009 by Ian]
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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FAZ
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epic 
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Tomnova16
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http://www.lemass.co.uk/ for all your automotive/bodyshop needs
Located in Chalfont st Peter
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Dan295
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nailbiting, fair play for cracking on with it in this weather
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jr
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good work, excelent use of weirdly numberd farm eqipment, but why is the door there ?
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Ste
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Need to keep the pace up, 20 weeks to go until its first outing.
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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jr
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ahhh side bits make perfect sense now, i like
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Rich H
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Ghetto
But so cool at the same time!
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
good work, excelent use of weirdly numberd farm eqipment, but why is the door there ?
As otherwise they have a box on the back of a truck they cant get in to 
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
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Door had to go in first so we could get in after the swap.
If you mean why is it in that location, it's near side so you can use it on a highway and its at the back because the patio doors are going are the front.
That will be next to the kitchen as well so we've ventilation / fire escape type of arrangement during hardcore hamburger fests.
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