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CORSA NUT
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29th Nov 10 at 11:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Can't believe you guys are arguing over cars that aren't even that quick there shitty thin French tin boxes that handle great.End of.
gez bay
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29th Nov 10 at 11:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
we're not arguin, its a discussion
CORSA NUT
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29th Nov 10 at 12:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaa sure it is gaz
CORSA NUT
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29th Nov 10 at 12:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I don't miss my 182 BTW...I miss my VTR more funnily enough.
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29th Nov 10 at 12:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
Can't believe you guys are arguing over cars that aren't even that quick there shitty thin French tin boxes that handle great.End of.


Oi wind your neck in laddie

My shitty french tin can was better built than my corsa
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29th Nov 10 at 12:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Wouldnt say this was arguing either tbh. Just because we dont agree on things dont mean its an argument.

Clios arent fast but they are quite quick. What other standard car in the same as the clios are better? Apart from the ctr which are faster and possibly better handling but the spec of them is shit compared to the 182ff. There isnt anything that is majorly better or worse which is roughly around the same price. Like john said though there is nothing till you get to 5k but then what do you expect from a 2.0 n/a.

gez bay
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29th Nov 10 at 13:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i find mine ok under 5k, since having the inlets ive noticed the 5k kick is smoother and pulls harder to the limiter.
Rob B
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29th Nov 10 at 15:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
182/CTR/Focus ST/Megane Sport/VTS/

All the same speed roughly,

All decent at handling too bar the focus, a well driven one of the above would not be touched by a Corsa XE.

I've owned all the above bar the Focus and have friends with XE's and still have them now, straight line was pretty even, braking and cornering the above all out handled them easily. One Corsa has billies too and whiteline bits and bobs
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29th Nov 10 at 17:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
we're the xe standard engines?
Rob B
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29th Nov 10 at 17:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Usual filter and exhaust but other than that yep
SportBoy
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29th Nov 10 at 17:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
all much of a muchness imo.
gez bay
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29th Nov 10 at 17:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
whats the actual weight of a clio cup?
gez bay
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never mind. Just checked 91kg lighter
CORSA NUT
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29th Nov 10 at 21:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rob B
182/CTR/Focus ST/Megane Sport/VTS/

All the same speed roughly,

All decent at handling too bar the focus, a well driven one of the above would not be touched by a Corsa XE.

I've owned all the above bar the Focus and have friends with XE's and still have them now, straight line was pretty even, braking and cornering the above all out handled them easily. One Corsa has billies too and whiteline bits and bobs


I doubt you'd be saying that about the ST if you had owned one Rob. It's the best car in that list without a doubt. Handling might not be as good as the french cars but it's still a very good handler.
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29th Nov 10 at 22:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Sorry matey but I would be very surprised if it handles better than a ctr.
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29th Nov 10 at 22:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
quote:
Originally posted by Rob B
182/CTR/Focus ST/Megane Sport/VTS/

All the same speed roughly,

All decent at handling too bar the focus, a well driven one of the above would not be touched by a Corsa XE.

I've owned all the above bar the Focus and have friends with XE's and still have them now, straight line was pretty even, braking and cornering the above all out handled them easily. One Corsa has billies too and whiteline bits and bobs


I doubt you'd be saying that about the ST if you had owned one Rob. It's the best car in that list without a doubt. Handling might not be as good as the french cars but it's still a very good handler.


ST170?
gez bay
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29th Nov 10 at 22:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
no, a focus st 2.5 turbo.
The focus is quite a heavy car and just no justice for its 225bhp in a straight line.
CORSA NUT
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30th Nov 10 at 00:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by big eck
Sorry matey but I would be very surprised if it handles better than a ctr.


TBF I never pushed the CTR I drove. I just ragged the shit out of it to feel the 'Vtec' which never actually came

ST I drove felt quick and planted with nice progressive understeer. Bearing in mind at the time I had my 320 brake Scooby so I knew it was a good car. Wanted one from that day. Also I'd driven hundreds of different cars everyday for 6 months so on those basis I rekon I have a good ground for comparison.
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ive been in a few CTR and one felt absolutley ass poor, there wasnt much in vtec either, like you said.
And the other one was ok, seemed a little bit better.
Both were standard.
CORSA NUT
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30th Nov 10 at 08:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Yeah I can definately say I wasn't impressed my 182 at least kicked off more at 5k were as the CTR just stayed the same speed and never went any quicker! Like the overall 'Feel' of the car though especially the gearshift action and location.
gez bay
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30th Nov 10 at 08:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
yeah, it just had more noise when it came in vtec
good handling car though, really impressed with that.
Ojc
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Who is saying a 172 is as quick as an ST

Do me a favour, around Brands I got dicked on by a Focus ST and I wasn't hanging around in the 172.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Who is saying a 172 is as quick as an ST

Do me a favour, around Brands I got dicked on by a Focus ST and I wasn't hanging around in the 172.


what if Paul J was driving your clio though, different story?
Jambo
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My dads harder than your dad.
Ojc
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Forza 3 is better than GT5 FACT

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