Joff
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Speaking of pens....
Mary Poppins says:
I prefer the writing quality of a Bic Medium.
Mary Poppins says:
I have a mate who swears by a Bic Fine.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
i wouldn't mind
Mary Poppins says:
We have Staedtler at work, but they're not much cop.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
i personally always use a fountain pen
Mary Poppins says:
I think those with Parkers are ponces.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
or a felt fine line
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
hate biro's
Mary Poppins says:
What about when you need to fill carbon backed forms?
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
then i go through much pain
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
as i must use a biro
Mary Poppins says:
Ok
Mary Poppins says:
This is wasted in MSN.
Mary Poppins says:
Another limitation of the medium - CS is suited to this kind of discussion and should be available for all.
Mary Poppins says:
You can't have a cartridge pen on my biro stand tho.
Mary Poppins says:
Not even if you park the pen at the edge of the desk.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
hmmm
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
that's what a top pocket is for
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
cos it has a little clip for your pocket lining
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
inside pocket of course
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
or u look a twat
Mary Poppins says:
Well, that's all well and good, but what if you've paid to use the desk tidy?
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
well
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
i wouldn't pay for a desk tidy
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
and
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
when specifiying which desk tidy my office bought me
Mary Poppins says:
What if it was an unofficial desk tidy.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
i would ensure it had a compartment to hold a cartridge pen
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
what not CE approved?
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
I'm sure health and safety would have a quiet word with me
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
all our desk tidies at work are PAT tested for electrical compliance
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
so i wouldn't want to sneak one in
Mary Poppins says:
No, it's kite marked (anyone can get CE approval) but I mean if you have say, a Bic desk tidy and a colleague said you could use it to hold a Parker cartridge pen...
Mary Poppins says:
But the colleague hadn't asked me.
Mary Poppins says:
And I'm quite arrogant sometimes - I had a bad experience when I was a kid and god ink from a cartridge all over my pencil case - such a mess. It wasn't washable either and stained all the inside of the case.
Mary Poppins says:
My mum was furious as it was a brand new Pepsi can style one. How gutted was I.
Mary Poppins says:
So anyway, I don't let any cartridge pens in the desk tidy.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
I completely understand your dilemma
Mary Poppins says:
Thanks.
Mary Poppins says:
What if you were in charge of Bic.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Still I always adhere to washable ink, to avoid such mess
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
If I was in charge of Bic, I would create a line of cartridge pens
Mary Poppins says:
And had a responsibility to ensure that all desk tidy's associated with Bic were represented properly.
Mary Poppins says:
So by creating a line of cartridge pens, they would in fact be cartridge pens with an association to Bic?
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
well
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
they would be Bic cartridge pens
Mary Poppins says:
And therefore would be allowed equal rights to use the Bic desk tidy.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
maybe they could produce a hybrid pen
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
certainly
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
although
Mary Poppins says:
They're not asking to be placed in the centre of the tidy.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
i feel most users would only have one cartridge pen
Mary Poppins says:
Just in one of the side compartments.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
But multiple colours of Bic 'biro'
Mary Poppins says:
Yes
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
So they would require a desk tidy with a larger selection of 'biro' holders
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
and maybe a central cartridge pen holder
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
With neons
Mary Poppins says:
What if the tidy only held 20 or so pens?
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Hmmmm
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
To be honest I can't picture the final design in my head
Mary Poppins says:
No?
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Maybe you could come up with a rough sketch
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
And we can futher this discussion on a web based forum
Mary Poppins says:
Well, it's probably going to be on grass.
Mary Poppins says:
Grass is always good for desk tidys
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Obviously pasting this original conversation so everyone can follow
Mary Poppins says:
With some sort of arrangement - with the "best" pens in the middle
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
I don't think my work would approve if they found 'grass' in my desk tidy
Mary Poppins says:
Obviously I would decide which pens were best.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Does that mean it would have to be customisable
Mary Poppins says:
They would have the best machining inside the barrel
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Whether you think biro's or cartridge pens are better?
Mary Poppins says:
No, they wouldn't have to be customiseable.
Mary Poppins says:
They could be though
Mary Poppins says:
That is up to the owner of course.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
It would be good if you could build your own desktidy
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
A small desktop lathe could be included
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
With various size piping
Mary Poppins says:
Some owners might get carried away and lose the ability to remove the lid to their pen.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
And a universal base
Mary Poppins says:
Or they might de-lid it altogether
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
What about flushing the pen lid and providing a solenoid for removal?
Mary Poppins says:
Others might try to change the flow of their pens in order to get the most ink out.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Although I fear the pen may spin when they come off the line
Mary Poppins says:
Yes, that might be ok - but what happens if you have to leave your pen somewhere overnight and you can't close it? It will dry out.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Well a Cobra Pencept 300 may come in handy
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
With full closure
Mary Poppins says:
I don't think the 300 model is very reliable.
Mary Poppins says:
I suppose it comes down to the fitter.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Definitely
Mary Poppins says:
Any good newsagent should be able to tell you of a good fitter in your area.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Just an idea
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Would you recommend a panel filter, or cone?
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
For best ink flow
Mary Poppins says:
Well really, you shouldn't use a filter as you've only got ink leaving the pen.
Mary Poppins says:
If you're using a pump fountain pen to fill from an ink well then I'd recommend a cone definately.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
So a straight-thought stainless steel pipe?
Mary Poppins says:
There isn't much to be gained with a cone apart from the gushing noise
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
For the ink delivery
Mary Poppins says:
and the filtration.
Mary Poppins says:
I'd say machined brass tbh.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Ok I will order the uprated exit for my pen
Mary Poppins says:
You should have two really.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
What about a twin pipe?
Mary Poppins says:
Yes.
Mary Poppins says:
You're thinking along the same lines
Mary Poppins says:
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
For those creative moments
Mary Poppins says:
Yes
Mary Poppins says:
Make sure you choose the right colour for the pen.
Mary Poppins says:
It has to be a standard colour, but something different.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
I was thinking two-tone for this year
Mary Poppins says:
No.
Mary Poppins says:
A ltd edition colour is best.
Mary Poppins says:
But standard.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Hmmm I still like my brushed aluminium pen
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
It gets noticed but I don't look like a boy-writer
Mary Poppins says:
But the base pen is popular with boy-writers, so you'll always have that problem.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Certainly
Mary Poppins says:
Especially with the lights you've installed into the lid.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Yeah
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
The underglow helps me write in poor light though
Mary Poppins says:
Yeah.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Right I have to go down to the ink station and refill my pen
Mary Poppins says:
Nice
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
It doesn't do many words per gallon
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Compared to a biro
Mary Poppins says:
Pay a bit more and get a decent grade.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Yeah
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
I use Optinkmax
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Pricey, but the owner of Ferrari uses that in his pen (or so I've heard)
Mary Poppins says:
Pretty good.
Mary Poppins says:
Yeah, more responsive when you put nib to paper.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Definitely
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Cheerios
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Cherrio and hope you get your desk tidy situation sorted out
Mary Poppins says:
Gets you out of those "I can't write" situations.
Mary Poppins says:
Well, I'll leave the desk tidy problem with you
Mary Poppins says:
Sure you can make it happen.
Tim [corsasport.co.uk] says:
Ok..,. Byeee and happy writing
[Edited on 24-04-2003 by Joff]
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