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Seems odd to deliberately damage your own car when trying to prove a point though?
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Kyle T
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Seems odd to deliberately damage your own car when trying to prove a point though?
I think the subtlety is in the wording:
I failed to avoid the contact to prove a point
I made contact to prove a point
I think Nico said/intended to say the first one. He could have (should have) bailed out like Seb did the lap before, but he decided not to.
As a chasing car, you've got more to gain and less to lose (in terms of odds) in this type of contact, plus he's leading the WDC so has got wiggle room.
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Confirmation from Merc that the Lewis quotes are accurate, and are a reflection of what is believed to have been said in the meeting
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Jambo
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Uh oh!
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I would fucking love a 1 race ban for Nico, but that isn't going to happen.
Why would he say that though? It makes no sense? He's basically told the team he will not do whats in the interests of the Team which now means all support will be thrown behind Lewis.
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Just watched the highlights and then caught up on the post race news.
What a shit start this is turning into. The management at Merc are VERY unhappy about Nico and if he did then come and say those things then I think he might get a royal kick up the arse.
The big annoyance for Hamilton is he will be thinking thats the 2nd race that Rosberg has directly screwed his race
This is an interesting comment from Wolf
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"If Lewis has said that it's going to be a slap on the wrist and that there's going to be no consequence, then he's not aware of what consequences we can implement," said the Mercedes chief.
[Edited on 24-08-2014 by Rob_Quads]
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A race ban is what I imagine he's getting at there, although it won't come to that.
They'll just put it across to Rosberg that this ends now. It's one thing ruining another guys quali, but it's absurd to drive dangerously on purpose.
Magnussen drove a bit wreckless against Alonso through what I think is inexperience and got a penalty.
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Thats what Anthony Doodaa was saying on Sky, if it had been Magnussen Kvyatt etc then they would have lamped him with a penalty. Because its Nico/Mercedes they don't.
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I'm not sure they'll go to a race ban, wonder who would get the seat though... Sam Bird or a promising star from the back of the grid on loan?
I imagine it'll just be employment contract punishment, maybe a fine/salary sacrifice but it's not going to be a sporting penalty, unfortunately.
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One thing for sure, something I said (along with a few others) after Monaco was that Nico has lost his "nice guy" reputation and will not be given the benefit of the doubt in future. I think we've seen evidence of that today, media/team/fans have all jumped on him.
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I've not been paying any attention to Ricciardo's WDC standings... just seen he's only 35points behind Hamilton 
It's impossible to consider he might actually win the WDC... or is it?!
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Yeah I noticed earlier how he's creeping up on the Mercedes. They really cannot afford to be complacent.
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I wonder if the RBR pitwall will start asking Seb to move over for DR, if he can ever get in front of DR that is 
It's also worrying for Mercedes that RBR won specifically at Canada and Spa, two of the engine tracks on the calendar. Monza is next, so I'd expect them to challenge there too.
However, on genuine pace - I still don't think RBR are close, they're just best of the rest whilst Rosberg keeps failing to convert pole positions.
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Yep in a straight race they wouldn't be challenging. But in terms of taking advantage of slip ups they've been there every time to lap up the bonus points.
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Makes Williams pretty disappointing really. They've been too passive on strategy, Bottas could have had one or two of those wins IMO.
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I expected more from McLaren after Australia too. Been a funny season.
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Makes Williams pretty disappointing really. They've been too passive on strategy, Bottas could have had one or two of those wins IMO.
I've said this before, Williams weak point IMO is their often off the wall strategies.
Am I right in thinking it's as quick as/slightly quicker top end than the Mercs?
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Yeah it's quicker - only through lack of downforce though. I think on Monza, Mercedes can afford to drop more than the other teams so should be competitive through the speedtraps.
Still, Williams have had shots at victory - and have just chosen to match rival strategies rather than try something different, meaning their lack of pace is eventually exposed.
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Is there video/audio evidence that these quotes are real?
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I doubt it, it was in the Mercedes team meeting debrief following the race. I doubt they film it/record it. Lauda probably took minutes though 
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If ever there was a incident that summed up just how unfair F1 can be, that was it. One person, totally at fault, ends up finishing 2nd and extending his championship lead. The other, 100% blameless, gets race ending damage and ends up with a mountain to climb to get back into the championship battle. Just like Monaco. Don't think I've ever witnessed a more frustrating season in terms of one guys 'mistakes' hurting his rival and helping him.
All the right noises coming out of the Mercedes team, it's just a shame that you know nothing they can do will even up what happened here, it's the points that matter and they can't and won't sacrifice what Nico got to help Lewis.
The only thing I can imagine them doing now is calling races early. Maybe they'll do it in monza if Lewis is in front. Maybe they'll tell Rosberg unless he's in front at turn 1, he isn't trusted to make a move, so it's Lewis' race if he makes turn 1 first. Unlikely.
Real shame it's turned out like this. Suppose this is what happens when you let your less skilled driver take on your world class one. Always looked like it could happen and it was always going to be this way round.
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From an un-biased, non fan boy point of view, i think it looked like a genuine mistake from Nico.
Just turned in too early not expecting Lewis's car to be there. Very front of his car caught the very back of Lewis's tyre, what's so hard to not believe that could have been a genuine mistake.
More chance of it ending his race than Lewis's so not sure why he would do it on purpose.
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not sure why he would do it on purpose.
Nico admitted he did
[Edited on 25-08-2014 by Steve]
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Got a link to a video??
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Hamilton said he did on Video, and team confirmed Lewis's comments were pretty much accurate in statements
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