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Poll: What to do engine wise...........................
  Fix mine, another quickish 150bhp car
  1.6 16v on Tb's
  XE, like Lee M's and myke's, run sub 15's all day and seem both to be reliable
  LET, vroooommmmmmm tisssshhhhhh


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bradfincham
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Daimo theres no point running Bodies, cams etc and nitrous without uprated internals.

You arent eliminating the weak point of the engine

Budget 3k for a nice TB'd setup and 215bhp
Budget 4.5; for a nice Let setup with 280bhp phase 2

Or blow about 6k and run Pectel and mental internals

Personally though as yours does handle i would stick with the smaller blovk engines james, i said 20xe on bodies but then for handling and being one of a few i think keeping x16 is the way to go

to get a corsa to handle well with a 2ltr will always be a prpblem, car has too much rake, and stripped out the rear will be very light.
However Adam B has one of the best setups available from what ive heard and seen

Matt H
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
quote:
Originally posted by bradfincham

If i was you i would go for an XE, rebuilt bottom end, head work, cams, jenevy bodies, emerald/omex management and aim for about 210 bhp



Bottom end is fine on an XE. GAZ'D car runs a standard bottom end. Think just rod bolts. He running over 300bhp.

Rod bolts, poss uprated pistons, throttle bodies, head work, cams, valve springs, engine management. 200bhp, stripped car, should be good for 250+bhp per tonne.


I was wanting to ask about Gaz's car

So he basically has a standard block other than the bottom end bolts?

And then differant cams, TB's, management & then the nitrous?

He then pushes it to its limits until it blows & starts over again on a new standard block?

If you want a good 1/4 mile time thats not actually a bad idea!
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quote:
Originally posted by Rileysport
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Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Rileysport
i was seriously thing jr's car would be super awesome with a c16se with twin carbs and giggle gas... keeps that basic hardcore edge.

unless he wants a mortgage for my other idea



i have genuanly thought about this, was talking to OJC about it on saturday


150bhp has been had from the 1.6 8v... before gas, and generally they're indestructable

[Edited on 05-06-2006 by Rileysport]


i know of one with 160bhp with no nos..... but the 8v would be wasted in the corsa, to heavy IMO.
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corsa is too heavy for the 8v, or the other way round ?
jr
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no matt, Gaz's is

road cams hydrolic lifters
omega pistons
arp rod bolts
home ported head
throttle bodies
150 shot of nitrous
plate type diff
road legal drag radials
its mot`d and taxed
218 bhp off gas and runs very low 13s without
broster
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quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
ok, ok, a midget on a skateboard is quicker than broster

but with someone else driving his car its a different matter



shut up with those jokes, i have been having lessons from a pro on how to launch my car pmsl! so much faster now
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sorry
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quote:
Originally posted by Teddy
On the other hand i have to say driving Brosters car is awesome.

Good power - ok might be down in the torque stakes but you can literally hammer it all day long and it will take it, its set up really well, with a decent balance of understeer, handles soooo well.

I have driven an 20xe as well and its good, but you can feel the weight disadvantage but you can feel the torque advantage, you could spend serious cash making it handle....

Not much to choose from between 16/20 xe

If you want balls out power go LET, but anything more than standard your talking serious tranmission mods to make it a "rewarding" drive.

Your call buddy - you know what i think anyhow


with the diff its a different car to drive, the amount of grip is awesome!

in a stripped out car id go 1.6 tb's in a full leather trimmed car id go for let power or v6.
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR


1.6 - Will also be left on the road by anything turbo'd.





shut up!
broster
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quote:
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corsa is too heavy for the 8v, or the other way round ?


corsa is to heavy for the 8v.
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vroooooooom tishhhhhh or a nice 1.6 on tb's!!
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lets be serious, gotech is great option for the management route, and there is a perfect ma for a 1.6 on tb's knocking round a workshop near where i work...

jr, call me and lets talk turkey
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vroooooooom tishhhhhh or a nice 1.6 on tb's!!



you get the vroooooooooooom tish noise with tb's

when you free next jr? take a trip up here and have a spin will you! after the abuse i gae it last night ,with the 9k rev limit being used ever so well, id say theres a lot to be said for standard rods and pistons! if the engine is wel balanced and built properly
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James, you are fortunate enough to have a daily driver, so take the corsa off the road for a long time, build a decent spec LET engine bit by bit, take your time, rebuild it completely. You can buy bits as and when funds allow and if you stick an XE in, you will always be thinking what if i had put a LET in.......
J1M
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Man, you lot type way to quickly, lol.

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why not put a xe in it then when u hav the ret of the money put tbs on the xe
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1.9.............
corb
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DONT GET A LET
lee mitchell
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quote:
Originally posted by corb
DONT GET A cheap LET
CorsAsh
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I hear you're doing C36GET conversions now Lee
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Daimo B
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quote:
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Originally posted by VXR


1.6 - Will also be left on the road by anything turbo'd.






shut up!



Someones arsey Broster, it will. Andys ran more power than yours and its noisey, but not amazing at all. Catch a turbo'd car in the right gear and it will go.....

Exactly the same was Donnas oblitorates mine..
Marc
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That is quite a wide statement to make Daimo.
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That statment is crap... too general to make
Marc
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A 1.0 turbo could potentially beat a 2.0, but the turbo would have to be so big that by the time it had spooled up the 2.0 would have won.

Catch the right turbo car in the right gear and it will go, not all of them.

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