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Without the big 4... so west ham to finish 5th does that mean? (in theory)
[Edited on 31-08-2006 by Cavey]
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Robbo
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Because there is NO way on earth that they would choose WHU (with the greatest of respect to WHU!) over Arsenal/Man Utd... but then supposedly MSI control the 2 players.. like I say, disgraceful and I hope FIFA getinvolved esp due to WHU's comments that all aspects of the deal are private 
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Originally posted by Robbo
This is a fucking nonsense!!
Its is presumably not a 'permanent' deal rather a 'loan' deal from MSI until Chelski/whoever get them!
My guesses: Chelski wanted them to get exoerience of UK + PL afore makign a Crespo/Veron stylee cock up and the real transfer goes through (ie. MIS to Chelsea!)
Either that, or MSI used their WHU links to get them there to showcase their talents as they feel they did not receive sufficient bids like they probly will in JANUARY!!!
Would be amazed if they last at WHU until 31 Jan!!!
Either way, the ethincal footy questions here need answering and the likes of MSI and Abrahomovic should be banned form footy.. this is not a rich mans plaything 
doesnt explain why it was a permanent deal and not a loan deal though!
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Cavey
Without the big 4... so west ham to finish 5th does that mean? (in theory)
[Edited on 31-08-2006 by Cavey]
Yeah, basically they'll finish 5th.
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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I'm all betted up 
On Ladbrokes...
Without the Big 4, West ham to finish top 10/1. Tenner on that
10/1, pfft!!!! Check out my post!! My odds are crazy!!!! I did it at dinner
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=307136
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Originally posted by Robbo
This is a fucking nonsense!!
Its is presumably not a 'permanent' deal rather a 'loan' deal from MSI until Chelski/whoever get them!
My guesses: Chelski wanted them to get exoerience of UK + PL afore makign a Crespo/Veron stylee cock up and the real transfer goes through (ie. MIS to Chelsea!)
Either that, or MSI used their WHU links to get them there to showcase their talents as they feel they did not receive sufficient bids like they probly will in JANUARY!!!
Would be amazed if they last at WHU until 31 Jan!!!
Either way, the ethincal footy questions here need answering and the likes of MSI and Abrahomovic should be banned form footy.. this is not a rich mans plaything
doesnt explain why it was a permanent deal and not a loan deal though!
Like I say, IMO its not... its merely a loan from MSI to WHU... West Ham have paid nothing I guarantee it!! Corinthians have gifted the players to WHU under the guise of MSI and MSI will recoup the lost fee (!!) and more when the real transfers go through... similar to Ronladinho in some ways... he went to PSG wehn all and sundry were after him as a stepping stone!
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10/1, pfft!!!! Check out my post!! My odds are crazy!!!! I did it at dinner
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=307136
But I dont think they are any better than the top four with those players, so wont win the Prem, FA or Carling cup! Best to win just £100 on a sensible bet than nothing on wild ones 
Although those ones are more fun!
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You can tell its a dodgy dela as WHU alreqady have Sheringham, Cole, Ashton, Harewood and Zamora... why in the fuck (other than his obv talent) would they need Tevez!!!??!
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Cosmo
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Like I say, IMO its not... its merely a loan from MSI to WHU... West Ham have paid nothing I guarantee it!! Corinthians have gifted the players to WHU under the guise of MSI and MSI will recoup the lost fee (!!) and more when the real transfers go through... similar to Ronladinho in some ways... he went to PSG wehn all and sundry were after him as a stepping stone!
I dont doubt that if MSI havent bought into West Ham it is just a stepping stone to a bigger club (although these were willing to pay up big oney this year anyway).
But it still makes little difference if they were simply loan deals to West Ham. Announcing them as permanent transfers wouldnt make their future sell on fee any larger than if they were loan deals.
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Yeah but big money now as ooposed to HUGE money ocne they have UK and Prem experience and guess who will be the only club to afford them
The reaosn they are permanent transfers is that technically they are... 'Corinthians' have 'sold' them to WHU but in reality MSI have loaned them to WHU for free in order to increase value!
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two players wont make up for the rest of the team!
New keeper looks promising too. You never know, the addition of these new players might be what the others needed to achieve their full potential. Or you could be right and Tevez and Mascherano might find the rest of the team isn't up to the job!
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PMSL peopel are so naive (not CS peeps jus in general!)
SSN were going on about these 2 lasting at WHU for 2,3,4 years  Going oh WHU will command huge fees, FFS be real! They paid nothing and will receive nothing
Absolute joke, so angry about tthe whole thign (and not form an arsenal poitn of view!)
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I just dont get this move at all, and something strange must be going on.
They sign for a club who wont be challenging for the Premiership this season and arent in the Champions Legue when they could of gone to clubs doing both.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Corinthians have been or are owned by Chelsea?? No doubt Kenyon and Abramovitch didnt want them going to United or Arsenal,but dont think of West Ham as a threat  I small a rat.
P.S - ive not read the whole thread, so if this has already been mentioned then apoligies 
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No, I think people think Abrahomivc controls MSI through his puppet mates!
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Cosmo
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Its illegal for Chelsea to own another club, or Abromavich himself. Its a bit iffy what he does with CSKA Moskow and Chelsea but is somehow getting away with it.
Doesnt mean he isnt controlling things through others though, and probably is.
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No, I think people think Abrahomivc controls MSI through his puppet mates!
Well either way something strange is going on here
He's a dodgy cunt that Abrahomivc, wasnt he under investigation not so long ago in Russia for something or other?
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Its illegal for Chelsea to own another club, or Abromavich himself. Its a bit iffy what he does with CSKA Moskow and Chelsea but is somehow getting away with it.
Doesnt mean he isnt controlling things through others though, and probably is.
Quite, its also quite illegal for him to have anything to do with another club but he'll have puppets running it probs!
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No, I think people think Abrahomivc controls MSI through his puppet mates!
Well either way something strange is going on here
He's a dodgy cunt that Abrahomivc, wasnt he under investigation not so long ago in Russia for something or other?
Well yeah but only because the corrupt goiv't wants all his money lol
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Well yeah but only because the corrupt goiv't wants all his money lol
he got all his money because of the corrupt Government! He is well in with all the leading politicians, and funds alot of them along with his other billionaire buddies so he can get away with alot of stuff over there.
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That was the former gov't iirc... the new president(ish) wants his money lol
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Dave, Im not going to swoop down to your level of banter.
If SWP is still at Chelsea n the next year / 2 years then lets see how much he improves, especially now Duff has gone.
If he doesn't play much this year then yes I will agree that he was wasted at Chelsea and should of moved to another club or stayed at City.
He is a superb talent and I was gutted that he wasn't at the WC.
End of banter - Back to West Ham & Tevez
you do make me laugh Greg
How do you expect him to improve when he plays 10 or 20 minutes every other game
Feel sorry for the lad
Agreed Dave, if a player goes from 70-90mins of football with Man City to 10-20mins with Chelsea how can he improve? I think you should just let Greg believe what he's saying and concentrate on other posters.
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You have twisted what I said, I said in 1 or 2 years he could improve just like Lampard and J Cole did. If he isn't given anymore games soon then he may aswell move on.
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we might get SWP when teves goes to chelsea, ive read this about 10 times this evening
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Cosmo
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You have twisted what I said, I said in 1 or 2 years he could improve just like Lampard and J Cole did. If he isn't given anymore games soon then he may aswell move on.
he has been there a year and missed out on the WC because of it.
He isnt going to get a decent amount of games, maybe a few in the Carling Cup but thats it. He'd be best moving to even a shitty middle of the table club but he has fucked a huge part of his career up now.
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I agree Cosmo
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