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Stu
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Originally posted by Cupra Steve
A fully modified civic compared to a fully modified corsa the civic will win, You will probably spend more on modifying the civic but it's not a 15 year old run around is it???


are you for real? i guess becuase you have driven sooooo many cars at the age of 18 you have driven a fully modified corsa then aswell???? fully modified including all suspension set up, good powered and balanced engine etc.

no, so please refrain from such rediculous comments, and go turn need for speed carbon off, open the front door, and smell the fresh air.


I have! I could only ever describe my Corsa's handling as dangerous!!! I spent thousands on trying to get that car right! No amount of suspension work can turn a chassis that is designed for tesco runs thats as high as it is wide into a handler!
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my car handles fine????

ak's corsa handles great. dave a's corsa the same, brosters, jr's etc.

you can make corsa's handle just fine. look at those vids. those 2 corsa's seem to manage perfectly well
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Originally posted by Eckmcmann
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Originally posted by Stu
Standard Corsa V Standard Type R

Thats the only fair comparison that can be made. Throw money at a Honda and its handling, grip, acceleration and top speed would improve like a Corsa does when you throw money at it!


If you threw £2000 at a 1.6 sport you can more than double its power. I sincerely doubt you can do that to a Type R.


Considering the Type R's already at 200bhp.. It'll be good going to get over 400bhp on 2k


I know But I was making the point that it would cost a lot more to improve the Tpe R's characteristics than it would a corsa.
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If you threw £2000 at a 1.6 sport you can more than double its power. I sincerely doubt you can do that to a Type R.


How?


So you think you can make a Civic Type R have just shy of 400bhp on 2k


Eh? I dont remember saying that? You said you could take the 1.6 sport to 200bhp on £2k? I asked............how?


You never stated which part of my statement you were questioning so I assumed you believed you can double a Type R's power on £2,000. And you can replace the 1.6 with a C20LET. From 106bhp to 202bhp.


Sorry, I was question how you double the power of a 1.6 Sport.

You can replace the 1.6 with a 2.0 LET but then its no longer a 1.6 Sport is it? Its a 2.0 turbo!

I know what your saying tho.
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**goes off and finds sensible thread**
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and then your comparing a 2.0 na to a 2.0 turbo.

Which is just silly
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there isnt a more sensible thread im afraid. as every thread about other cars turns into massive corsa bashing threads. i will defend my corsa against any car as i know what it is and what it can do.

why post on a corsa forum saying how shit corsa's are then go on about it when genuine corsa owners defend their cars?????? i dont get it
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and so is comparing a £1500 1.6 corsa to an £8000 (rough price) 2.0 Type R
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Originally posted by Eckmcmann
and so is comparing a £1500 1.6 corsa to an £8000 (rough price) 2.0 Type R


exactly!

they will never compare until you start throwing money at the corsa..
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my car handles fine????

ak's corsa handles great. dave a's corsa the same, brosters, jr's etc.

you can make corsa's handle just fine. look at those vids. those 2 corsa's seem to manage perfectly well


I was just giving you my experiences of a 2 litre Corsa with over 200bhp. I never got mine right no matter what i did.
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of which my statement i was trying to say was.

spend the same on the corsa and the civic. the civic would be nowhere near the corsa.
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A fully modified civic compared to a fully modified corsa the civic will win, You will probably spend more on modifying the civic but it's not a 15 year old run around is it???


your wanting to swop a Y reg car for one of these said 15 yr old run abouts


was just thinking that myself. and define "fully modified". The more you spend on the civic, the more you can spend on the corsa


well i mean fully track prepped, Well your talking about putting different engines in corsas, you could stick a different engine in the Civic!!!!! This argument is stupid.


I was swapping my car for a 300bhp corsa yes, i'm not saying that xe/let corsa's are shit, i'm just not blinded by thinking that you can't do better!!!!! I would have a ITR DC5 over any FWD car atm.
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judging by the video i posted above, id take a corsa over an integra, cheaper and handle better and seem to be quicker on th straights.
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Originally posted by muppetsport
of which my statement i was trying to say was.

spend the same on the corsa and the civic. the civic would be nowhere near the corsa.


I hope you have actually thrown the same money you've spent on your corsa at a CTR and done a like for like comparison..


Or else its like someone commenting on a car they have never driven
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Originally posted by Eckmcmann
and so is comparing a £1500 1.6 corsa to an £8000 (rough price) 2.0 Type R


exactly!

they will never compare until you start throwing money at the corsa..


That is true... But if you gave two people £8,000 and one bought a CTR, and one bought a Corsa for £1,000 and spend the other 7 on it... Ach I give up, this'll go on forever
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Anyway, there is nothing wrong with car banter! Its the bread and butter of car forums! Look at how many replies this thread has had!!!

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I have no idea what has been said so far but here is what I saw at the Motorshow. Looks impressive, I like how they're doing white again, going to be naturally aspirated. What made me laugh more is that Dad and I got talking to someone from Honda. We was asking loads about the new CTR, sounding really interested. He asked when we would be changing our car next, we said the summer. He then asked what we drove and dad said an E46 M3, he kind of just stood there as if to think "you'll never buy a CTR" and then said "Well, just consider the Type R"





That grill will be a bitch to clean in the summer though.

[Edited on 28-11-2006 by deano87]
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quote:
Originally posted by BabyBlade
quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
of which my statement i was trying to say was.

spend the same on the corsa and the civic. the civic would be nowhere near the corsa.


I hope you have actually thrown the same money you've spent on your corsa at a CTR and done a like for like comparison..


Or else its like someone commenting on a car they have never driven


i have seen and raced a ctr with over 10 grand spent on it, i havent spent anywhere near that including buying the car. when i ran std fucked turbo, std boost and road tyres i was 0.4 of a second slower than it. i spent another 600 quid for the turbo i have now which holds mental boost, still spending less than the ctr owner has and i would seriosuly doubt it would be as quick. thats as close of a comparrison i can give.
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the integra wasnt trying, also its cheaper to modify a corsa than a civic cos Vauxhall stuff is subject to a higher depreciation rate therefore cheaper.
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quote:
Originally posted by Eckmcmann
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Originally posted by BabyBlade
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Originally posted by Eckmcmann
and so is comparing a £1500 1.6 corsa to an £8000 (rough price) 2.0 Type R


exactly!

they will never compare until you start throwing money at the corsa..


That is true... But if you gave two people £8,000 and one bought a CTR, and one bought a Corsa for £1,000 and spend the other 7 on it... Ach I give up, this'll go on forever


I would never spend 7k on a corsa though Sorry
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That video was nothin to go by. I could beat a CTR round a track... it's all down to the driver.

At the end of they day, u spend 8k on a CTR then buy a corsa for £1500 then spend the rest on modding it, then corsa will rape a CTR. I know the CTR will be standard, but im just saying if you spent 8k on both what u'd get. I know which id have.
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the integra wasnt trying, also its cheaper to modify a corsa than a civic cos Vauxhall stuff is subject to a higher depreciation rate therefore cheaper.


the integra wasnt trying? are you even watching the video?
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at the end of the day its still a corsa.....
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This still going on?

Heres a picture of Willy Waving (Willy the Whale).....



Videos arn't always the best to go buy. I just posted the vid of me catching VX220's in an Astra....

As i've said, doesn't matter how good your car is if you can't drive it for sh1t....

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at the end of the day its still a corsa.....


that is faster and can outhandle the allmighty integra and wont have cost a fraction of it?

yeah, i see what you are saying

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