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Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by mikegsic16xe
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Originally posted by Cupra Steve
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Originally posted by Jenko_Sport
Am i going to have to weigh everything ive taken out ust to see what weight it is?


TBH if you can i would genuinely be interested.



im gonna do it


Cheers mate, if it weighs close to 40kg (which in robins case is a conservative estimate) i will eat me toe nails.
Mike GSi
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11th May 07 at 11:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so will i mate........i might even take off the petrol tank cover.....you never know it might knock a half second off a 1/4 mile
Cupra Steve
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i can't believe people have seen my point and are agreeing with me, i feel a bit emotional!
Mike GSi
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11th May 07 at 11:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

TBH id rather weight in the rear....that way id get oversteer....not understeer.
Daimo B
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While your at it, weigh the dash for me
Jenko_Sport
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quote:
Originally posted by mikegsic16xe
TBH id rather weight in the rear....that way id get oversteer....not understeer.


Lift off oversteer is alot easier with a stripped rear.
Mike GSi
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11th May 07 at 12:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

okie dokie
Mike GSi
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Originally posted by mikegsic16xe
TBH id rather weight in the rear....that way id get oversteer....not understeer.


Lift off oversteer is alot easier with a stripped rear.


if theres proof ill go outside and do it now
Cupra Steve
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Lift off over steer is caused by weight transfer, less weight over the rear the easier it slides, but the lighter it is the harder it is to control.
Jenko_Sport
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I beg to differ steve with the rear seats and rest of the gubins in once it began to slide its alot harder to get it back or so ive found anyway.
Cupra Steve
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Fair enough! My old astra was very easy to control, but my bro's stripped escort was alot harder, different cars though so hohum,
Mike GSi
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11th May 07 at 12:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hmmmm curious now
Wonderboy
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11th May 07 at 12:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think I will notice a difference with my seats out, because with my 1.0L 12v, I can really feel it much slower with passengers.

I've taken the seat out of the back, but I can't get the back rest out Can anyone please U2U me on how to do this? As I have lost my manual

[Edited on 11-05-2007 by Wonderboy]
Cupra Steve
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Pull it really hard, if not take a hammer to it.
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just pull and were ever its not comming out there will be a bold, It a split fold??

Theres a 19mm bolt in the middle and I m sure on mine there were a few torx bolts on either side
Mike GSi
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11th May 07 at 12:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if they are the same as a nova...u need to undo a bolt either side at the bottom from inside the boot. iirc
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I've taken off the two plastic covers at each side, now I'm left with the hinge at each side.

I need to remove it from there. I'll try take a picture if I can find the camera.
Mike GSi
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11th May 07 at 12:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

u need to take some kind of clip or screww that stops the seat from coming out/off the hinge if u get me.
Wonderboy
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11th May 07 at 12:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Never mind, go it. Cheers Matt.

The rear back rest is heavy... ish, but the actual seat doesn't way much at all.

Going to take my spare wheel out for tonight, and I'll let you know what it feels like
Wonderboy
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Thinking about taking my passengers seat out, just for tonight
charlessurr
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Wont taking weight out of the rear of a standard corsa brake like horse poo. With no weight the rear load bias valve will ahve little to no effect and so youll only be using the front brakes, meaning you have to brake earlier!?

Probably wrong but just a thought.

Ive noticed some people put their own bias valves in, is this to compensate for this? And do you still ahve the spring loaded bias valve if you use rear discs?
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11th May 07 at 13:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just remove the spring that holds the valve open/closed and fix it in the required position permanently.
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11th May 07 at 13:49   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I can't believe this is still going

Are we still arguing that it doesn't make a difference, wrongly?
Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
I can't believe this is still going

Are we still arguing that it doesn't make a difference, wrongly?


No robin, we've moved on, plus that wasn't the origional argument you dickhead.
mattk
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I think the argument has matured into how much of a difference it makes, some seem to think it will knock 0.006675 seconds off a 1/4 mile others dont

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