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Jambo

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25th Sep 14 at 10:53

Moving away from discussing if Hamiltons Dad pronounces Quinoa - Keen-wa or Quin-Oh-Wa

Did anyone hear the usually morose Button laughing at how fast the Williams was on the straight?! Was funny

Dom

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25th Sep 14 at 11:45

quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
....class is not just determined by wage.

Didn't say it was determined by salary

What i said was that it's directly connected to, ie - it's a fundamental of.

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Originally posted by JonnyJ
If i earned £30k a year driving Lorries....

Are lorry drivers working class? Similarly, does earning £30k pa make you working class?

I wouldn't say earning £30k pa would make you working-class, likewise £40k doesn't make you middle-class. Again, i didn't say the class system is determined purely on salary, you did.....

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Originally posted by JonnyJ
...i dont know why you're trying to paint a picture of privilege?

Not trying to paint a picture of anything. Just stating that he wasn't 'ghetto' council estate scum as some are suggesting....

quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
...snip...

Plenty of drivers are from broken homes and plenty of families sacrifice a lot for their children.
If you asked if any of the current F1 drivers had the same sort of childhood, then probably not. Go back 15-20 years and i suspect it would be different however.

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Originally posted by JonnyJ
Council estate scum were Ben's words not mine.

I know, hence why i replied to Ben and strangely not you

Didn't stop you wading in though.....

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Originally posted by JonnyJ
In fact if you could find a less appealing place to grow up in on the current F1 grid I'd be surprised.

Stevenage is a stereotypical 'concrete' town and parts of it (walk 10 minutes out of the centre and you're in the country side) does look a bit of a dive but there's a shed load of money in the town (due to the tech/military companies) and property has always been reasonably pricey (considering it's location to London).
Either way, plenty of F1 drivers have come from worse places - Uphall, Hemel Hempstead, Barnet etc

As for current drivers, Kobayashi's home town Amagasaki perhaps?

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Originally posted by JonnyJ
If he was average he wouldnt have got the chance and would have had to work his way up to prove himself, simple

So you're an 'average' driver if you don't get backing from major team during your junior years?

Either way i don't think anyone has disputed that Hamilton (nor his father) hasn't worked hard to get where he is, like every other driver, but there was a reasonable amount of luck involved for Hamilton to be there at the right time and place to get noticed and picked up by Mclaren.
And the question still remains, would Hamilton be where he is without Mclaren's backing and having to work up chain like other drivers?

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26th Sep 14 at 20:40

SABOTAGE!!!!!!!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/29387429

Ben G

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26th Sep 14 at 21:53

Possibly. Who's to say it wasn't done to even the odd's?

Not that i'm stupid enough to believe that any Mercedes personnel would do that. But i'm sure 90% of Facebook users think that way.

Rick Draper

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27th Sep 14 at 21:20

quote:
Originally posted by Cavey
SABOTAGE!!!!!!!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/29387429

I fucking told you so on the last page.

Kyle T

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27th Sep 14 at 23:14

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So Japan next, Hondas home GP... Wonder what McLaren will announce.

Thanks for all the fish Grandad

Going back to this, Mclaren seem to have made up their mind and if i was basing it on Jenson's body language alone in the past few races I'd say his days are numbered. Mind, they've been numbered ever since Ron told him to get a jog on

Twitter seems to think that Honda have agreed to pay Alonso's salary for three years. This rumour is smelling more and more like the Lewis/Merc one in 2012.

Do they keep JB or KM in that scenario? JB has got positive Honda history but kM is cheap, roughly equal on performance and Ron seems to like him.

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Kyle T

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29th Sep 14 at 23:46

Hmm 1am quali and 2am race for me this year...

Thinking a couple all nighters are on the cards, plus I'll get to watch FP for the first time since Spain

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JonnyJ

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1st Oct 14 at 08:59

So Honda have given us a glimpse of their PU. Not much other than eye candy as no doubt they'll be hiding an secrets like the other 3 did when they launched their previews

Jambo

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1st Oct 14 at 09:37

The question is when does VTEC kick in

Dave

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1st Oct 14 at 10:06

Whenever Fernandos right foot wants it to.

JonnyJ

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1st Oct 14 at 20:31

http://thesheriffsoffice.com/articles/breaking-news-impending-sale-of-a-formula-one-vehicle-and-equipment

Anyone fancy a 2013 F1 car? An F1 simulator perhaps? Im sure i can make room for it in the spare room

JonnyJ

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2nd Oct 14 at 09:00

Looks like we could be having an extremely wet Japanese GP, with a typhoon not far away.

Wouldnt mind another Fuji 07, with the same result for Lewis and his team mate

JonnyJ

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2nd Oct 14 at 17:36

Rumours that qualifying and the race might have to take place on Saturday if the typhoon looks like hitting the circuit. Its due to get close Sunday. Maybe even fully PP'd

Kyle T

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2nd Oct 14 at 18:47

Cancel the race tbh.

Gives Rosberg 25 fewer opportunities to catch up to Lewis in the WDC

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Ben G

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2nd Oct 14 at 18:59

Gives lewis less chance to gain more points and distance between himself and Nico though, Kyle.

Jambo

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2nd Oct 14 at 22:33

Typhoon is 300miles wide apparently.

Kyle T

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3rd Oct 14 at 00:42

Ah, 20:41 in the evening - 19mins to grab a beer or two from the bar, then get back up to the room for FP1.

The one time this year where my timezone is favourable for F1

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JonnyJ

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3rd Oct 14 at 17:29

Just finished watching FP1&2. Lewis looks in good nick, fastest lap set of worn mediums after a mega moment coming out of Degna 2 on his first run. Even on his best run he was out of sorts coming onto the start finish straight, mind Nico messed up the chicane too.

Quali looks like it will be dry, so all being well it'll be a Merc 1-2, seeing as they looked in a world of their own in practice. Race looks like it will almost certainly be very wet however. Always mixes things up, could be a big one for the title race!

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4th Oct 14 at 01:13

Vettel leaves Red Bull

Kyle T

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4th Oct 14 at 01:31

Dun dun! It all gets blown up now.

Seb to Fez, Fred to Mac, JB to the BBC etc etc

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Ben G

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4th Oct 14 at 01:34

Jesus Christ, I did not even think vettel would leave his beloved team

Tbh that looks like he couldn't handle being shown up by a talented team mate.

I hope he does well at Ferrari. Hoping the team get back on track.

Alonso to Mclaren

Magnussen will learn a lot from him.