keidicko
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Originally posted by bigron1988
been having a few problems with the water system having alot of pressure in the system when boosted , did a leak down test on it and results came back good, did a snif test and there was co2 in the headertank so been on the phone to steveboy the last few day and today decided to take head of, we think the head has gone soft so it looks like its fit for the bin, marks on the headgasked look to conferm our thoughts that the head is noving under boost , so now the plan is to get a good coscast head and have all the headwork done on that then all my valves,springs etc fitted, going to be using a hks headgasket this time , also need to take pistons out of block tomorow as they need to go to steves with the head as they are going to have to be machined down to keep the cr the same
expensive bit of scrap
also while its apart im having these bits coated by zirotec, not sure what colour so have a look and let me know what colour you think
http://www.zircotec.com/page/-_performance_colours/47
also going to get 3 fans put on the rad(good quality ones not ebay),getting a bigger headed tank made and will look to lift the back of the bonned up a few inches to help keep it cooler, also got a set of comp break rose jointed ball joints and track rod ends on root to me to go with the rose jointed front end, have come close to breaking the car this weekend but need to keep on with it ,
You need to go to some one else for engine work !
Head moving under boost is unliklely on 1.9 bar thats not big boost
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TimC909
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1.9bar boost with a GT35 turbo is huge quantity of air to be compressed by the pistons compared to say 1.9bar on a standard KKK turbo. Its not the excess boost that causes these sort of issues, its air quantity/volume.
I suggest you think abit about what your saying before making a stupid comment.
[Edited on 08-04-2012 by TimC909]
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3i_gaz
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agree with what time says you mustn't have any idea whatsover how much air a GT35 actually flows!
It came on boost like a train too lol
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Alex_Rally
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u must have more money than the spice girls.
u must be loosing the heart for this project.
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bigron1988
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quote:
Originally posted by keidicko
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Originally posted by bigron1988
been having a few problems with the water system having alot of pressure in the system when boosted , did a leak down test on it and results came back good, did a snif test and there was co2 in the headertank so been on the phone to steveboy the last few day and today decided to take head of, we think the head has gone soft so it looks like its fit for the bin, marks on the headgasked look to conferm our thoughts that the head is noving under boost , so now the plan is to get a good coscast head and have all the headwork done on that then all my valves,springs etc fitted, going to be using a hks headgasket this time , also need to take pistons out of block tomorow as they need to go to steves with the head as they are going to have to be machined down to keep the cr the same
expensive bit of scrap
also while its apart im having these bits coated by zirotec, not sure what colour so have a look and let me know what colour you think
http://www.zircotec.com/page/-_performance_colours/47
also going to get 3 fans put on the rad(good quality ones not ebay),getting a bigger headed tank made and will look to lift the back of the bonned up a few inches to help keep it cooler, also got a set of comp break rose jointed ball joints and track rod ends on root to me to go with the rose jointed front end, have come close to breaking the car this weekend but need to keep on with it ,
You need to go to some one else for engine work !
Head moving under boost is unliklely on 1.9 bar thats not big boost
thats not even worth a reply
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bigron1988
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sump,baffle and pick up of and cleaned
pistons and rods out
bearings are all in good nick, no suprises there,
and all ready to drop of tuesday hopefully
gregs picking me up a good condition coscast tomorow so hes going to bring that when we go on the drive to steveboys
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Col004
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Sad times mate...
Keep going pal
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Jon_C
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You are the fuckin man Ben.
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BeArDy
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sorry to hear about the problem.
dident Rick Draper have this problem of the head lifying under boost?
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bigron1988
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Originally posted by BeArDy
sorry to hear about the problem.
dident Rick Draper have this problem of the head lifying under boost?
not a clue mate , i had a quick google on the hks hg and i know he was using one , still able to make me a header tank mate ?
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Rick Draper
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I ran a hks gasket on mine after other issues with the cosmetic.
I would look to try to plumb a large return hose into the inlet manifold near the alternator like the standard manifold used. After chatting to Rob who also ran a manifold like yours (he used his car on track days etc and always suffered water temperature problems) we came to the conclusion that that could possibly be causing the overheating.
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bigron1988
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quote:
Originally posted by Rick Draper
I ran a hks gasket on mine after other issues with the cosmetic.
I would look to try to plumb a large return hose into the inlet manifold near the alternator like the standard manifold used. After chatting to Rob who also ran a manifold like yours (he used his car on track days etc and always suffered water temperature problems) we came to the conclusion that that could possibly be causing the overheating.
i already have a fitting tapped into the inlet flange if thats where you mean
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BeArDy
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Have a read threw some old post of Ricks OR Speckys as i am sure one them have head lifting problems.
yes mate i can make you want ever you want 
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bigron1988
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cheers mate , any idea when gres car will be done as will have a chat about it then, found speckys thread where the bolt holes had gone over on vauxsport, but tbh there is not much around on soft heads
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bigron1988
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Originally posted by BeArDy
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yes mate i can make you want ever you want
you should be called del boy
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Rick Draper
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quote:
Originally posted by bigron1988
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Originally posted by Rick Draper
I ran a hks gasket on mine after other issues with the cosmetic.
I would look to try to plumb a large return hose into the inlet manifold near the alternator like the standard manifold used. After chatting to Rob who also ran a manifold like yours (he used his car on track days etc and always suffered water temperature problems) we came to the conclusion that that could possibly be causing the overheating.
i already have a fitting tapped into the inlet flange if thats where you mean
No on a standard inlet there is a larger pipe below this that returns to the pipe that connects the plastic rear water pipe to the water pump housing.
Jenvey use this on there TB manifold, you might be able to adapt something to make it fit yours?
http://www.jenvey.co.uk/home/manifold/jenvey-dynamics/manifold-water-elbow-xe-mwe01
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Nic Barnes
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how is your water system piped up? just wondering is the only feed your head gets through the block? as you haven't got the inlet fed through to the head, and it looks like you don't have the pipe that would normally run to heater matrix from right hand side of head either?
just wondering if thats causing your over heating and pressurising up issues? as the bleeder pipe on inlet won't be able to do anything if there isn't water passing through the head? I'm more than likely completely wrong like.
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bigron1988
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quote:
Originally posted by Rick Draper
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Originally posted by bigron1988
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Originally posted by Rick Draper
I ran a hks gasket on mine after other issues with the cosmetic.
I would look to try to plumb a large return hose into the inlet manifold near the alternator like the standard manifold used. After chatting to Rob who also ran a manifold like yours (he used his car on track days etc and always suffered water temperature problems) we came to the conclusion that that could possibly be causing the overheating.
i already have a fitting tapped into the inlet flange if thats where you mean
No on a standard inlet there is a larger pipe below this that returns to the pipe that connects the plastic rear water pipe to the water pump housing.
Jenvey use this on there TB manifold, you might be able to adapt something to make it fit yours?
http://www.jenvey.co.uk/home/manifold/jenvey-dynamics/manifold-water-elbow-xe-mwe01
of this doesent fix it then that is what i was going to be looking into using , was speaking to nic the other day and the only dirrfence between out water systems are the 3 way water hose and hes running a heater matrix
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bigron1988
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
how is your water system piped up? just wondering is the only feed your head gets through the block? as you haven't got the inlet fed through to the head, and it looks like you don't have the pipe that would normally run to heater matrix from right hand side of head either?
just wondering if thats causing your over heating and pressurising up issues? as the bleeder pipe on inlet won't be able to do anything if there isn't water passing through the head? I'm more than likely completely wrong like.
mine is piped up just like a normal let but with where the pipe leaves the side of the head and its ment to go into the hearer matrix then back to the rail mine just loops around and goes from side of head to rear of water bar , piped same as ste powels tigra as was on the phone getting him to check its all the same , im 99%sure that its had this prob since it was on the rollers as last time when it made 470ish i did 500 miles ish on that giving it death and the temps and preasure all behaved them selfs , so going to pipe the water back into the turbo when putting it back together as that was just a temp fix
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possy
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ben i will do my best to beat you at pv mate lol and i hope you get it sorted if you need a lift let me no as i am off till the 16th and you can take my head down to stevs if you want lol
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bigron1988
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ben i will do my best to beat you at pv mate lol and i hope you get it sorted if you need a lift let me no as i am off till the 16th and you can take my head down to stevs if you want lol
will do if you want mate , am collecting rowlands engine , it just might be making a detour to mine first tho
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possy
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haha no prob i will ring u tomoro pal
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Jed D
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what size pistons are you sing pal? and where's a good place to buy them?
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bigron1988
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86.5 , steveboyslim for all engine parts
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Steve
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Too much pal in here
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