abekingstonwarrior
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pug 306 tds rock quick as fuc!!!
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MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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still don;t matter. they ain't fitted as standard to TD's they do not need them.
They aint fitted as standard to Petrol cars either.
My point was, if out of the 2, a TD or a Petrol was fitted with a dump valve of sorts as standard, it would make more sense for the TDs to have one, as you rightly stated above, they make higher boost.
ahem they are you fool 
sorry, turbo petrol models arnt my best area. But i didnt think a standard petrol turbo engine had a valve that dumped boost? It re-circs it back thru the system!
I'm talking bout droppin the boost straight out into the atmos.
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abekingstonwarrior
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banned but u will be first scalp for bulb
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abekingstonwarrior
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bulbs gonna take u out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!kev
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Kev_Clio_172
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hmmm ill await that one....i have no dougt that bulb will be up for it especially with ya driving
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vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
still don;t matter. they ain't fitted as standard to TD's they do not need them.
They aint fitted as standard to Petrol cars either.
My point was, if out of the 2, a TD or a Petrol was fitted with a dump valve of sorts as standard, it would make more sense for the TDs to have one, as you rightly stated above, they make higher boost.
ahem they are you fool
sorry, turbo petrol models arnt my best area. But i didnt think a standard petrol turbo engine had a valve that dumped boost? It re-circs it back thru the system!
I'm talking bout droppin the boost straight out into the atmos.
you said petrol cars do not have dump valves. they do the recirc ones. you should structure your replys better so that people understand what you mean
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MattyB
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Originally posted by abekingstonwarrior
pug 306 tds rock quick as fuc!!!
sarcasm i guess??
Nevertheless, after yesterdays discussion i just had to go and get some timing for my car!! Although it was pelting down!
Anyway, they were done with a mate in the car, timing. And with the shitty 14" budget tyres up front, i had to hold back to prevent wheelspin.
However, i'm not tryin to make excuses
anyway, 0-60 was 9.7s (as an average of 3 runs)
0-100 was 27.4s (over 2 runs)
50-70 was 5.9s flat (only once tho)
I'd really love to get some accurate timings up at the pod, and will definately be up for doin a run wot ya brung day when its next open.
Matt
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Kev_Clio_172
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yeah cos the are slow as ****......
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MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
still don;t matter. they ain't fitted as standard to TD's they do not need them.
They aint fitted as standard to Petrol cars either.
My point was, if out of the 2, a TD or a Petrol was fitted with a dump valve of sorts as standard, it would make more sense for the TDs to have one, as you rightly stated above, they make higher boost.
ahem they are you fool
sorry, turbo petrol models arnt my best area. But i didnt think a standard petrol turbo engine had a valve that dumped boost? It re-circs it back thru the system!
I'm talking bout droppin the boost straight out into the atmos.
you said petrol cars do not have dump valves. they do the recirc ones. you should structure your replys better so that people understand what you mean
Nah, its pretty clear ross that i meant if either car should have a atmos D/V (ie: dumps straight out into atmos to prevent damage to turbo), then it shud be the TD due to higher boost pressures! 
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Kev_Clio_172
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27 seconds to a 100.....hahahahaha thats one quick motor mate
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MattyB
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yeah cos the are slow as ****......
a sub 10s run in the wet isnt slow as **** by any means. For a 1.9TD thats pretty heavy, u cant moan.
Well i suppose u cud moan, if u were used to driving a sub 8s car! lol
Matt
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
still don;t matter. they ain't fitted as standard to TD's they do not need them.
They aint fitted as standard to Petrol cars either.
My point was, if out of the 2, a TD or a Petrol was fitted with a dump valve of sorts as standard, it would make more sense for the TDs to have one, as you rightly stated above, they make higher boost.
ahem they are you fool
sorry, turbo petrol models arnt my best area. But i didnt think a standard petrol turbo engine had a valve that dumped boost? It re-circs it back thru the system!
I'm talking bout droppin the boost straight out into the atmos.
you said petrol cars do not have dump valves. they do the recirc ones. you should structure your replys better so that people understand what you mean
Nah, its pretty clear ross that i meant if either car should have a atmos D/V (ie: dumps straight out into atmos to prevent damage to turbo), then it shud be the TD due to higher boost pressures!
it's not clear you said dump valve. you did not specifiy atmos or recirc. atmos valves also lean out the engine, they also do not tend to work on VAG turbos. your car does not require one. you have not gained any performace. atmos DV's for TD cost £200 and all they do make a noise between gear changes. it's as sad as fitting one of those fake valves to a N/A car
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MattyB
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Originally posted by Kev_Clio_172
27 seconds to a 100.....hahahahaha thats one quick motor mate
never said it was mate , but then again its not meant to be a performance car.
If i could afford the mega ££££ for petrol i wud have got meself a x16xe corsa, but even the 0-60 on that is only a second or so less. But 50mpg when i'm booting it, i cant complain.
Matt
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DAYZEE
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quote:
Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
still don;t matter. they ain't fitted as standard to TD's they do not need them.
They aint fitted as standard to Petrol cars either.
My point was, if out of the 2, a TD or a Petrol was fitted with a dump valve of sorts as standard, it would make more sense for the TDs to have one, as you rightly stated above, they make higher boost.
ahem they are you fool
sorry, turbo petrol models arnt my best area. But i didnt think a standard petrol turbo engine had a valve that dumped boost? It re-circs it back thru the system!
I'm talking bout droppin the boost straight out into the atmos.
you said petrol cars do not have dump valves. they do the recirc ones. you should structure your replys better so that people understand what you mean
Nah, its pretty clear ross that i meant if either car should have a atmos D/V (ie: dumps straight out into atmos to prevent damage to turbo), then it shud be the TD due to higher boost pressures!
Both relieve turbo pressure, it doesn't matter that type you use.
Stop trying to point out the differences between dump valves, they do the same job.
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MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
still don;t matter. they ain't fitted as standard to TD's they do not need them.
They aint fitted as standard to Petrol cars either.
My point was, if out of the 2, a TD or a Petrol was fitted with a dump valve of sorts as standard, it would make more sense for the TDs to have one, as you rightly stated above, they make higher boost.
ahem they are you fool
sorry, turbo petrol models arnt my best area. But i didnt think a standard petrol turbo engine had a valve that dumped boost? It re-circs it back thru the system!
I'm talking bout droppin the boost straight out into the atmos.
you said petrol cars do not have dump valves. they do the recirc ones. you should structure your replys better so that people understand what you mean
Nah, its pretty clear ross that i meant if either car should have a atmos D/V (ie: dumps straight out into atmos to prevent damage to turbo), then it shud be the TD due to higher boost pressures!
it's not clear you said dump valve. you did not specifiy atmos or recirc. atmos valves also lean out the engine, they also do not tend to work on VAG turbos. your car does not require one. you have not gained any performace. atmos DV's for TD cost £200 and all they do make a noise between gear changes. it's as sad as fitting one of those fake valves to a N/A car
Didnt cost me a shade of £200???
Car does not require one, but its suggested that they can extend the life of the turbo, which is good enough for me.
They dont make a lot of noise between gear changes, coz 90% i drive running too little boost for this to occur (i've said this many times now)
When i do boot it + boost up, and get a Paa-Tiscssschhh, i get a massive smile on my face (each to there own whether thats sad or not, but i love it, cant deny that). The sound is "tunable" using the rotating bezel on the top, and i only ever have it set 1/2 way.
Matt
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MattyB
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Originally posted by DAYZEE
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
still don;t matter. they ain't fitted as standard to TD's they do not need them.
They aint fitted as standard to Petrol cars either.
My point was, if out of the 2, a TD or a Petrol was fitted with a dump valve of sorts as standard, it would make more sense for the TDs to have one, as you rightly stated above, they make higher boost.
ahem they are you fool
sorry, turbo petrol models arnt my best area. But i didnt think a standard petrol turbo engine had a valve that dumped boost? It re-circs it back thru the system!
I'm talking bout droppin the boost straight out into the atmos.
you said petrol cars do not have dump valves. they do the recirc ones. you should structure your replys better so that people understand what you mean
Nah, its pretty clear ross that i meant if either car should have a atmos D/V (ie: dumps straight out into atmos to prevent damage to turbo), then it shud be the TD due to higher boost pressures!
Both relieve turbo pressure, it doesn't matter that type you use.
Stop trying to point out the differences between dump valves, they do the same job.
my apologies
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by abekingstonwarrior
pug 306 tds rock quick as fuc!!!
sarcasm i guess??
Nevertheless, after yesterdays discussion i just had to go and get some timing for my car!! Although it was pelting down!
Anyway, they were done with a mate in the car, timing. And with the shitty 14" budget tyres up front, i had to hold back to prevent wheelspin.
However, i'm not tryin to make excuses
anyway, 0-60 was 9.7s (as an average of 3 runs)
0-100 was 27.4s (over 2 runs)
50-70 was 5.9s flat (only once tho)
I'd really love to get some accurate timings up at the pod, and will definately be up for doin a run wot ya brung day when its next open.
Matt
27.4 s to 100 is slow as shit. thats bearly quicker than a mk2 VTR and very much slower than a 106 GTi. please note my reply a few pages ago when I said you'd probably get around 28s to 100.
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by DAYZEE
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
still don;t matter. they ain't fitted as standard to TD's they do not need them.
They aint fitted as standard to Petrol cars either.
My point was, if out of the 2, a TD or a Petrol was fitted with a dump valve of sorts as standard, it would make more sense for the TDs to have one, as you rightly stated above, they make higher boost.
ahem they are you fool
sorry, turbo petrol models arnt my best area. But i didnt think a standard petrol turbo engine had a valve that dumped boost? It re-circs it back thru the system!
I'm talking bout droppin the boost straight out into the atmos.
you said petrol cars do not have dump valves. they do the recirc ones. you should structure your replys better so that people understand what you mean
Nah, its pretty clear ross that i meant if either car should have a atmos D/V (ie: dumps straight out into atmos to prevent damage to turbo), then it shud be the TD due to higher boost pressures!
Both relieve turbo pressure, it doesn't matter that type you use.
Stop trying to point out the differences between dump valves, they do the same job.
it does matter which you use. try putting a atmos valve in a VAG 1.820VT and you'll 8 times out of 10 get error codes
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Marc
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Originally posted by vibrio
it's as sad as fitting one of those fake valves to a N/A car
I saw a bog standard mkIV escort with one of these once
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vibrio
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Originally posted by 16vmarc
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Originally posted by vibrio
it's as sad as fitting one of those fake valves to a N/A car
I saw a bog standard mkIV escort with one of these once
fucking sad
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MattyB
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by abekingstonwarrior
pug 306 tds rock quick as fuc!!!
sarcasm i guess??
Nevertheless, after yesterdays discussion i just had to go and get some timing for my car!! Although it was pelting down!
Anyway, they were done with a mate in the car, timing. And with the shitty 14" budget tyres up front, i had to hold back to prevent wheelspin.
However, i'm not tryin to make excuses
anyway, 0-60 was 9.7s (as an average of 3 runs)
0-100 was 27.4s (over 2 runs)
50-70 was 5.9s flat (only once tho)
I'd really love to get some accurate timings up at the pod, and will definately be up for doin a run wot ya brung day when its next open.
Matt
27.4 s to 100 is slow as shit. thats bearly quicker than a mk2 VTR and very much slower than a 106 GTi. please note my reply a few pages ago when I said you'd probably get around 28s to 100.
Was in the wet, wheel spinning right thru first, second and eventually gripped in 3rd.
Was pulling away from a motorway hard shoulder, and all went the way of the pear coz it was slippery, oil and water logged.
I reckon a 26.5 is very realistic. You CANNOT deny that is nifty for a diesel that is only tuned to stage 1, running a standard intercooler (engine mounted). But is still tuned for economy at the same time
A 16.5s from 60-100 is only 3s off Steve's 60-100, in a GTi with 140bhp!! A standard Gti must only run a 0-100 in wot, 23s?
Matt
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MattyB
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But to tell ya the truth, being quicker than a little lightweight 1.6 8v (VTR) to 100mph is good enough for me
Just wanna get the front mounted cooler and boost up rated now!
Matt
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DAYZEE
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by DAYZEE
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
still don;t matter. they ain't fitted as standard to TD's they do not need them.
They aint fitted as standard to Petrol cars either.
My point was, if out of the 2, a TD or a Petrol was fitted with a dump valve of sorts as standard, it would make more sense for the TDs to have one, as you rightly stated above, they make higher boost.
ahem they are you fool
sorry, turbo petrol models arnt my best area. But i didnt think a standard petrol turbo engine had a valve that dumped boost? It re-circs it back thru the system!
I'm talking bout droppin the boost straight out into the atmos.
you said petrol cars do not have dump valves. they do the recirc ones. you should structure your replys better so that people understand what you mean
Nah, its pretty clear ross that i meant if either car should have a atmos D/V (ie: dumps straight out into atmos to prevent damage to turbo), then it shud be the TD due to higher boost pressures!
Both relieve turbo pressure, it doesn't matter that type you use.
Stop trying to point out the differences between dump valves, they do the same job.
it does matter which you use. try putting a atmos valve in a VAG 1.820VT and you'll 8 times out of 10 get error codes
Thats not what I said, they do the same job, relieve turbo pressure.
You could probably get away with a twin piston one on a VAG Turbo anyway.
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by DAYZEE
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by DAYZEE
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Originally posted by MattyB
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Originally posted by vibrio
still don;t matter. they ain't fitted as standard to TD's they do not need them.
They aint fitted as standard to Petrol cars either.
My point was, if out of the 2, a TD or a Petrol was fitted with a dump valve of sorts as standard, it would make more sense for the TDs to have one, as you rightly stated above, they make higher boost.
ahem they are you fool
sorry, turbo petrol models arnt my best area. But i didnt think a standard petrol turbo engine had a valve that dumped boost? It re-circs it back thru the system!
I'm talking bout droppin the boost straight out into the atmos.
you said petrol cars do not have dump valves. they do the recirc ones. you should structure your replys better so that people understand what you mean
Nah, its pretty clear ross that i meant if either car should have a atmos D/V (ie: dumps straight out into atmos to prevent damage to turbo), then it shud be the TD due to higher boost pressures!
Both relieve turbo pressure, it doesn't matter that type you use.
Stop trying to point out the differences between dump valves, they do the same job.
it does matter which you use. try putting a atmos valve in a VAG 1.820VT and you'll 8 times out of 10 get error codes
Thats not what I said, they do the same job, relieve turbo pressure.
You could probably get away with a twin piston one on a VAG Turbo anyway.
Just admit that recirc valves are better
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Marc
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i admit but im biased 
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