whitter45
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Originally posted by VXR
People are comparing Clios to Civics? I don't understand why??
Civics are compared to Astras. Clios are compared to Corsas/Saxos etc.....
Different league/class of cars??? Only similarity is they both have FWD 2.0 16v NA engine?
at last someone recognises what I have said
As stated when the CTR was released Renault, ford, vauxhall, volkswagon did not really have a hot hatch as such for sale in that particular class
Now the market is flooded with 200 BHP+ cars in the same class - how is that a bad thing
[Edited on 02-10-2007 by whitter45]
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Steve
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it isnt, but ctr owners still think there car is the best even though like you say there is better competition out there now
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whitter45
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Originally posted by Steve
it isnt, but ctr owners still think there car is the best even though like you say there is better competition out there now
yes but that does not brand it 'runbish' or not fast as people have stated
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Daimo B
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Exactly.
Corsas are owned by boyracing chavs. And Grannies?
One or the other, can't be both, opposite ends of the spectrum.
I could say a lot of Evo/Scooby owners are rich chavs and most can't drive for toffee? Does that apply to all of them?
Is everyone on this site a boyracing chav burberry wearing idiot???????
The CAR itself is good. It just has a reputation of bad drivers... Tell me what car DOESN'T have that??????
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by VXR
And you said Muppet the other day that you didn't have a vendetta against Type R's....... RE-read this post... Im replying after reading page 2 
Type R's, good track cars, engine needs to be worked hard, but thats the way it was designed and it can be revved for harder and longer than 95% of 4 pot NA engines in standard form.
Good little cars, bad image.. But then you have to be one of "those images concious types" to really give a feck.. Since when did what people think of you define what you should/shouldn't buy.
Good cars, if you like it, get one.
you havent read that last page and a bit as usual and just commented no matter what. i typed my views properly on why i dont like them yet you chose to ignore them and post slander up as usual
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by CR7
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
tbf barnes corsa impresses me 200 times more than a ctr
Yes, but its hippocritical
Also, it should'nt, its nothing special, anyone can fit a LET to a 10 year old Vauxhall
[Edited on 02-10-2007 by CR7]
i fully agree, yet i feel you only posted that to try to get me to reply with some abuse, however i wont, as you havent got a clue what you are talking about which is pretty obvious
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whitter45
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Originally posted by muppetsport
quote:
Originally posted by VXR
And you said Muppet the other day that you didn't have a vendetta against Type R's....... RE-read this post... Im replying after reading page 2
Type R's, good track cars, engine needs to be worked hard, but thats the way it was designed and it can be revved for harder and longer than 95% of 4 pot NA engines in standard form.
Good little cars, bad image.. But then you have to be one of "those images concious types" to really give a feck.. Since when did what people think of you define what you should/shouldn't buy.
Good cars, if you like it, get one.
you havent read that last page and a bit as usual and just commented no matter what. i typed my views properly on why i dont like them yet you chose to ignore them and post slander up as usual
The thing is muppet you have one view and one view only
You will not see were people are coming from or even accept their view
You really need to look at how you come across on this forum. Granted you do not like them and think they are overated etc - thats fine your entitled to your opinion but that doesn't mean your right or no one else can have a view on it
I have views on the car which maybe biased as my mate has one and I like it - doesn't mean i am right or wrong
[Edited on 02-10-2007 by whitter45]
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CR7
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quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
quote:
Originally posted by CR7
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Originally posted by Steve
tbf barnes corsa impresses me 200 times more than a ctr
Yes, but its hippocritical
Also, it should'nt, its nothing special, anyone can fit a LET to a 10 year old Vauxhall
[Edited on 02-10-2007 by CR7]
i fully agree, yet i feel you only posted that to try to get me to reply with some abuse, however i wont, as you havent got a clue what you are talking about which is pretty obvious
I have got a clue, you have issues with Civic Type R's you really need to get out your system..... It's ALL i ever see you whinging about
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Nic Barnes
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then your clearly reading the wrong posts why mention my car in all this other than to try to wind me up?
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CR7
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Originally posted by muppetsport
then your clearly reading the wrong posts why mention my car in all this other than to try to wind me up?
Because i find it utterly humerous when modified corsa driver slags off a very very good car...
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by gavin18787
out of interest if I gave you two (muppet and moe) 10k today what would you go out and buy?
saph or escort cossie
impreza
evo
lancia delta integrale
s3 or s4 audi
celieca gt4
saxo vts highly modified with 137bhp
keep the cash until could afford a lotus carlton
ibiza cupra and shit loads of engine mods
clio 182 cup
r32 skyline
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by CR7
quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
then your clearly reading the wrong posts why mention my car in all this other than to try to wind me up?
Because i find it utterly humerous when modified corsa driver slags off a very very good car...
becuase i drive a corsa means what exactly? ive driven shit loads of other cars, just becuase i have a corsa means i know nothing? hmm, ok then.............
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by muppetsport
you havent read that last page and a bit as usual and just commented no matter what. i typed my views properly on why i dont like them yet you chose to ignore them and post slander up as usual
You haven't actually put whats wrong with them to make them a BAD car.
They are not bad cars. They are good cars, you just dislike them.
That doesn't make them a bad car.
And yes, i read it. I wasn't stonned at the time either so i've got full vision cheers 
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
saph or escort cossie
impreza
evo
lancia delta integrale
s3 or s4 audi
celieca gt4
saxo vts highly modified with 137bhp
keep the cash until could afford a lotus carlton
ibiza cupra and shit loads of engine mods
clio 182 cup
r32 skyline
Running costs, fuel, insurance.
Aye because 10k (initial buying cost) is all that matters when buying a car
I could run a Type R for cheaper than all but the Clio on that list. You should know the running costs for a tuned car, especially FI.
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by muppetsport
Because i find it utterly humerous when modified corsa driver slags off a very very good car...
becuase i drive a corsa means what exactly? ive driven shit loads of other cars, just becuase i have a corsa means i know nothing? hmm, ok then.............
No, but a 400bhp FWD FI car is only good from 50mph+ when you get traction.
He's not saying what you have is bad, but to have a car that will be as un-drivable on the road as yours (don't try to defend it, i've seen your videos and spoken to you before (you turned into a bellend, you used to be ok) and you've said how easily is spins up).
Civic would beat your car in every way bar straightline performance...
You've just taken it personnally again
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CR7
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Originally posted by muppetsport
becuase i drive a corsa means what exactly? ive driven shit loads of other cars, just becuase i have a corsa means i know nothing? hmm, ok then.............
You come across as knowing absolutely nothing with some of your posts, also your constant swearing does you no credability
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CR7
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Originally posted by VXR
They are not bad cars. They are good cars, you just dislike them.
Muppet, suggest you read this with care
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
you havent read that last page and a bit as usual and just commented no matter what. i typed my views properly on why i dont like them yet you chose to ignore them and post slander up as usual
You haven't actually put whats wrong with them to make them a BAD car.
They are not bad cars. They are good cars, you just dislike them.
That doesn't make them a bad car.
And yes, i read it. I wasn't stonned at the time either so i've got full vision cheers
mage 7 or 8, i wrote what was bad about them
1. gearbox issues with reverse and 3rd (moes tavern said his in 2nd aswell as reverse)
2. compared to other cars have to rev the twat off it to make it go anywhere, having 4 people in suffers big time
3. the feeling of the steering, its far too light to give you any response to what it is your doing
4. its not special enough to be a type-r. its just average at everything.
5. they sound like a wasp in a jar underwater. would give me a headache
6. the brakes on them are utter shit
7. the roll on the chasis as you turn into corners sparks a great fear that the car will massively undesteer, which you dont get in a 182 at all
8. the dashboard is tacky and awful and extremely cheaply made only good bit is the cup holders
9. if your not a good driver and dont know the car well enough you will have a problem as more than other cars, its abotu being in the right gear at the right revs at the right time. if your not, you lose.
10. theyre a very very ugly car to look at from the front
11. this reliabiltity thing is garbage, i know from the few my mates have that they break as much as any other car
12. who cares what i think as i drive a modified corsa so i have no right, and no experience of cars to be able to comment on what is obviously the worlds greatest car ever. ever made, fastest thing ever.
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
Because i find it utterly humerous when modified corsa driver slags off a very very good car...
becuase i drive a corsa means what exactly? ive driven shit loads of other cars, just becuase i have a corsa means i know nothing? hmm, ok then.............
No, but a 400bhp FWD FI car is only good from 50mph+ when you get traction.
He's not saying what you have is bad, but to have a car that will be as un-drivable on the road as yours (don't try to defend it, i've seen your videos and spoken to you before (you turned into a bellend, you used to be ok) and you've said how easily is spins up).
Civic would beat your car in every way bar straightline performance...
You've just taken it personnally again
negative, i get 4.82 0-60 fwd with traction, have also outdone 3 ctr's on a track. daimo, you know NOTHING about my car and the way its set up. so feel free to comment like you know more than the people that built the car and drive the car and set the car up. your like an idiot, guessing with your ego.
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by CR7
quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
becuase i drive a corsa means what exactly? ive driven shit loads of other cars, just becuase i have a corsa means i know nothing? hmm, ok then.............
You come across as knowing absolutely nothing with some of your posts, also your constant swearing does you no credability
fuck swearing, i swear all the time every day, so who gives a fuck what you think? not me, your just a kid who thinks its clever to bully people.
well done
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CR7
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Originally posted by muppetsport
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Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by muppetsport
you havent read that last page and a bit as usual and just commented no matter what. i typed my views properly on why i dont like them yet you chose to ignore them and post slander up as usual
You haven't actually put whats wrong with them to make them a BAD car.
They are not bad cars. They are good cars, you just dislike them.
That doesn't make them a bad car.
And yes, i read it. I wasn't stonned at the time either so i've got full vision cheers
mage 7 or 8, i wrote what was bad about them
1. gearbox issues with reverse and 3rd (moes tavern said his in 2nd aswell as reverse)
2. compared to other cars have to rev the twat off it to make it go anywhere, having 4 people in suffers big time
3. the feeling of the steering, its far too light to give you any response to what it is your doing
4. its not special enough to be a type-r. its just average at everything.
5. they sound like a wasp in a jar underwater. would give me a headache
6. the brakes on them are utter shit
7. the roll on the chasis as you turn into corners sparks a great fear that the car will massively undesteer, which you dont get in a 182 at all
8. the dashboard is tacky and awful and extremely cheaply made only good bit is the cup holders
9. if your not a good driver and dont know the car well enough you will have a problem as more than other cars, its abotu being in the right gear at the right revs at the right time. if your not, you lose.
10. theyre a very very ugly car to look at from the front
11. this reliabiltity thing is garbage, i know from the few my mates have that they break as much as any other car
12. who cares what i think as i drive a modified corsa so i have no right, and no experience of cars to be able to comment on what is obviously the worlds greatest car ever. ever made, fastest thing ever.
You have serious issues mate, did you actually type all that out, or copy of from notepad which you always leave open 'just in case'
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Daimo B
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Gearbox, known issue, otherwise its a good box on them.
The idea of Vtec IS to rev the nuts off of it. If you want to haul 4 peopel about, buy a derv... Not a sports hot hatch...
Fair enough for you, can be improved with aftermarket suspension. Your opinion.
200bhp, 135+mph, 0-60 6.4.... 0-100 in about 16 secs... Not too shabby for a daily NA engined hack i'd say. Your opinion.
Matter of your opinoin.
Brakes are better than the astras, and they Astras suffice ok. Your opinion again.
Its a bigger car with a lot more weight. Without stiffening the suspension, its simply how it is. Again, your opinion..
Opinion.....
Agreed, but thats just the way that car is. If you don't want to drive like that, get another car.
Opinion.
Opinion, the ENGINES are very reliable.
Opinion.
I still see no facts that make it a bad car, like wheels coming off, or doesn't go round corners or anything stupid... All opinions....
Opinions don't make a car a BAD car, its just you don't personnally like it, and thats what we're pointing out to you....... Try openeing those eyes...
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by VXR
I still see no facts that make it a bad car, like wheels coming off, or doesn't go round corners or anything stupid... All opinions....
Opinions don't make a car a BAD car, its just you don't personnally like it, and thats what we're pointing out to you....... Try openeing those eyes...
there are no reasons why a 182 is a bad car, its a better car than a ctr ffs
oh, and wasnt it over rated i said? you know, you skip parts of posts and only pick up on the wrong bit and comment on it again and again dont you?
daimo, your know saying im not allowed an opinion on a ctr? is that what your trying to say? i have no right to have an opinion on it?
[Edited on 02-10-2007 by muppetsport]
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by muppetsport
negative, i get 4.82 0-60 fwd with traction, have also outdone 3 ctr's on a track. daimo, you know NOTHING about my car and the way its set up. so feel free to comment like you know more than the people that built the car and drive the car and set the car up. your like an idiot, guessing with your ego.
I know about your car from what YOU have told me previously on U2U before you went all super moody on here
4.82, every single time on all road surfices, or done a couple of times on a timed event with rubber on the ground.... Because there is only ONE type of road surfice. This is where riding a bike helps, you learn what types of surfice offer what type of grip.
You outdone 3 CTR's becuase you have double the power and 1/3 the weight. Its commen sense u'll leave them down the straights.
Get technical and plug in some data recorders and record your speeds into the apex and out, and then do the civic. Civic will be a few MPH faster, without engine or suspension or brake change......
Im not guessing about anything, im going on what you've told me, and from viewing YOUR videos, and vidoes of your car at events.
Keep going, this is fun Your in a right strop today
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by CR7
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Originally posted by muppetsport
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Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by muppetsport
you havent read that last page and a bit as usual and just commented no matter what. i typed my views properly on why i dont like them yet you chose to ignore them and post slander up as usual
You haven't actually put whats wrong with them to make them a BAD car.
They are not bad cars. They are good cars, you just dislike them.
That doesn't make them a bad car.
And yes, i read it. I wasn't stonned at the time either so i've got full vision cheers
mage 7 or 8, i wrote what was bad about them
1. gearbox issues with reverse and 3rd (moes tavern said his in 2nd aswell as reverse)
2. compared to other cars have to rev the twat off it to make it go anywhere, having 4 people in suffers big time
3. the feeling of the steering, its far too light to give you any response to what it is your doing
4. its not special enough to be a type-r. its just average at everything.
5. they sound like a wasp in a jar underwater. would give me a headache
6. the brakes on them are utter shit
7. the roll on the chasis as you turn into corners sparks a great fear that the car will massively undesteer, which you dont get in a 182 at all
8. the dashboard is tacky and awful and extremely cheaply made only good bit is the cup holders
9. if your not a good driver and dont know the car well enough you will have a problem as more than other cars, its abotu being in the right gear at the right revs at the right time. if your not, you lose.
10. theyre a very very ugly car to look at from the front
11. this reliabiltity thing is garbage, i know from the few my mates have that they break as much as any other car
12. who cares what i think as i drive a modified corsa so i have no right, and no experience of cars to be able to comment on what is obviously the worlds greatest car ever. ever made, fastest thing ever.
You have serious issues mate, did you actually type all that out, or copy of from notepad which you always leave open 'just in case'
typed it out im trying to be civil about it, theres no need for your little responses trying to wage a war.
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