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Public sector do not earn less, load of bollocks.
depends, perhaps maybe the very high ranks of public earn more, i know our chief exec is on a ridiculous wage.
the ground staff and there manager though are on less.
Departmental Senior management wage in our local govt is around 27k, that is shocking compared to any private sector jobs i have seen
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my mam is paid like £8.50 ph to clean for benifits people lol
bin men are on a great wage for unskilled work too
infact i dont really know anyone who works a council job whos wage isnt better than the equivilent
Please stop filling this thread with facts. It's quite clear public sector workers are paid a pittance to work in piss poor conditions and now the nasty politicians are stealing their pensions to give directly to their rich friends.
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Originally posted by spencer88
Public sector do not earn less, load of bollocks.
depends, perhaps maybe the very high ranks of public earn more, i know our chief exec is on a ridiculous wage.
the ground staff and there manager though are on less.
Departmental Senior management wage in our local govt is around 27k, that is shocking compared to any private sector jobs i have seen
ground staff doing what?
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Steve
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IT support, is what im directly exposed to
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taylorboosh
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how much do you earn a year if you dont mind and what is the equivilent private wage
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Steve
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im at the very top of my scale at 24k thats because i have been there years
most people around me are on the 20k mark, and that is for first line onsite technical support and network management of various sites.
one lad i know up'd and left does something similar for Halcrow and earns 30k+
[Edited on 29-11-2011 by Steve]
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John
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20kish for a standard tech support role is good.
The 30k Halcrow job will be more infrastructure management and knowing more than how to reset a password in AD, which the 20k jobs don't.
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I.T Support OfficerVacancy from
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Wage£19000 to £20000 Per Annum
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Steve
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the 20k jobs entail installing new servers, building complete systems for clients from scratch and configuring them for there needs
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John
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The guy on 30k will also have his arse on the line when the company email goes down and be pressured to fix it 10 minutes ago.
Do you have any pressure like that Steve?
What do you mean by installing servers and what are you defining as a system?
Installing XP, or Server for that matter isn't difficult.
How is the email handled? What are the servers doing?
[Edited on 29-11-2011 by John]
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Steve
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yeah john-d when i say it support i dont mean some guy sat on a hpone resetting passwords, i mean we install complete systems for people from scratch.
this obviously requires knowledge of all server os, exchange, and client operating systems
not to mention bespoke software that our clients in education use, eg SIMS
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1ST LINE IT SUPPORT AGENTVacancy from
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Hours5X 7.5 HR SHIFTS OVER 7 DAYS BETWEEN HOURS OF 7AM & 7PM
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Steve
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The guy on 30k will also have his arse on the line when the company email goes down and be pressured to fix it 10 minutes ago.
Do you have any pressure like that Steve?
nope, which was exactly what i pointed out earlier, that public sector get it a lot easier, but dont get paid to be stressed like private sector employment, it really boils down to personal taste and what you want out of life, money or stress free easy life
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Steve
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some people choose to get paid less, but have less stress and geater job security.
some people like to push themselves and earn as much as they can
but the point im making is public sector arent always on a cushty well paid number
well iv certainly not seen it in Worcester, apart from those at the very top, which i agree, there salaries are disgusting
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My input to this thread is I work very closesly with a council every single day and all of them, to a person, are as thick as fucking mince.
I could write a paul_j style post on their stupidity, all of which costing the taxpayer tens of thousands of pounds. One off the top of my head...their mail takes 3 days from the time a stamp is put on a letter until it is in transit because a) their internal mail audit procedures and b) they went out to tender and Royal Mail didn't win.
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CABLING/IT ENGINEERVacancy from
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Steve
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yeah most are thick lol
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taylorboosh
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steve it jobs in private pay shit... simples
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John
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Money is just haemorrhaged in any public body I deal with. They won't spend money on certain things that keep the system running yet are happy to spend 1.5k on a scanner x4 for adjoining desks, instead of getting 1x 100 quid bit that does the same thing.
I could go into a random council office and have saved them thousands a day in 1 shift, I'm not sure why that doesn't happen, it does in the private sector.
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youve not shown me any jobs that entain the level of it we deal with
you have shown me some it support which probably entails a guy answering a phone
and cabling which is just some guy crimping plastic plugs on the end of wires
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Money is just haemorrhaged in any public body I deal with. They won't spend money on certain things that keep the system running
agree
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John
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Go and find a job doing what you do getting paid more Steve.
I know exactly what's out there and although the odd well paid one shows up, they are few and far between.
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taylorboosh
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you havent shown me one that you can do which realisticly pays more?
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Ian
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Just because you've found some very low level support roles doesn't mean the pay is shit across the entire sector.
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Steve
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My mate working at Halcrow was my example
im not fussed about spending time trying to prove a point, im just giving my views based on what i have seen
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