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PaulW
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   27th Dec 03 at 10:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is a bit fooked...



Mmmmmmmmmmm Crab Paste!
l33t corsa
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Looks even nicer in Firebird:

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itts oerfect in IE for me
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Yeah, relies on CSS-2 quite a bit and as IE 6 has the most complete W3C implementation, we decided to go with IE only.
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Funny you should mention W3C...

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pvdalloys.co.uk
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pvdalloys.co.uk&warning=1&profile=css2&usermedium=all

Joff
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Having a site that validates through any parser isn't the be all and end all with complying to W3C recommendations.

Looking over some of the warning that throws up, there are a few tweaks that I could do to fix them - just stuff where I've been rushed and it tests and runs in IE 6 so... moved on to my next item on the to-do list

I also think using the correct Doctype would fix a couple of points, but it's a lot easier to just use Transitional and let the (MS) browsers do the rest
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How is CS? I don't test it too well as I've not much installed but I'd like to know how it behaves.
PaulW
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CS runs ok in both Konqueror & Mozilla 1.51, but the menu is a bit messy at times in mozilla

apart from that no probs here (linux)

just making a website for IE is silly... not everyone uses it
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MS Internet Explorer No 19757060 97.3 %
Opera No 169589 0.8 %
Netscape No 151874 0.7 %
Mozilla No 138888 0.6 %
Konqueror No 29091 0.1 %
Safari No 23039 0.1 %
Unknown ? 16357 0 %
Nokia Browser (PDA/Phone browser) No 324 0 %
Sony/Ericsson Browser (PDA/Phone browser) No 213 0 %
Galeon No 124 0 %
Others 227 0 %

You've not seen our user agent log then

Like I say, I'd like to have it fairly cross-platform. When you say 'messy', could you screen dump it?
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Looks great on Lynx...
PaulW
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Thats what ya get if you dont click exactly on the text link within the drop-down menu, or if you click on a line between sections. It's ok in konqueror, but I think its probably related to how mozilla handles javascript.

Microsoft is just shoved in everyones face though, like it or not you get it & its not an option unless you build your own machine explains the results
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Trotty, how does it look in Lynx? Most if not all of my sites should be more than happy in text-only/screen reader browsers - it's just the display elements of CSS have become a bit messed up across the latest browsers...
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I can't show you a screenie right now, our *nix box at work shows CS surprisingly well though.

I will check pvdalloys.co.uk when I'm back if you like.
PaulW
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Lynx 2.8.5-11
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
MS Internet Explorer No 19757060 97.3 %
Opera No 169589 0.8 %
Netscape No 151874 0.7 %
Mozilla No 138888 0.6 %
Konqueror No 29091 0.1 %
Safari No 23039 0.1 %
Unknown ? 16357 0 %
Nokia Browser (PDA/Phone browser) No 324 0 %
Sony/Ericsson Browser (PDA/Phone browser) No 213 0 %
Galeon No 124 0 %
Others 227 0 %

You've not seen our user agent log then

Like I say, I'd like to have it fairly cross-platform. When you say 'messy', could you screen dump it?



Whilst CS probably isn't the most accurate representation of web users as a whole, IE isn't far off that percentage of the market share.

There isn't one browser that is 100% happy with CSS - there's so many fixes you need to cater for it makes more sense from a costs perspective to cater for the majority. Those with less significant browsers should be fully aware of the implications of using them on today's WWW - I've tried Opera (and infact I'm currently using Mozilla) and at the end of the day, IE is so much better.

Joff
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Cheers!

Although why anyone would want to view an alloy-wheel website (where the main purpose of visiting is to view images of alloy wheels) with a text-only browser.

Dan B
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CS works absolutely fine in Opera 7, not found any problems yet...

PVD Alloys, however, does not:
Joff
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Well that's the closest to how it should look so far.

I suppose I could have just coded it all with tables, but it's nice to get away from using tables for layout if possible

Trying a bit of both ...
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front page looks like that for me too, is just when going to the wheel packages it displays like it did up top

 
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