R Lee
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i personally think that the quoted price isnt too bad. if the garage is doing everything for you then it sounds about right.
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Corsakid84
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what are your views on the stylingfx combat kit for the corsa C are they any good?
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Ive done the little exterior bits like door handles, boot handle and mirrors, but flame red is impossible to match up, so they look a slightly different shade if you look closely.
i would maybe do mine myself if my car wasnt a shite colour for it, notorious for fading, oxidising, changing shade, damnit.
so its really not worth spraying the bumpers and trim, cos its basically impossible to match the colour, so when i get a kit im just gonna have a fresh respray of infamous flame red.
needs a flat and respray anyway to get rid of all the little nicks and touch up spots.
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Nath
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Surely if u took the bits off your car and left them with a bodyshop the colour match wouldnt be very good?
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Kris TD
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
Surely if u took the bits off your car and left them with a bodyshop the colour match wouldnt be very good?
they cant match up faded paint.
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Colour-Tec Coachworks
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Registered: 18th Dec 03
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Just thought i'd add my bit to this. How its done professionally:
Cars are matched using a digital paint imaging machine, which basically goes against the car and makes a formulation for the paint mixer, so the paint is near on perfect.
The other way in which the paint can be perfected is the same method used when repairing an accident damaged car. Example: if your car needs a new wing, most good bodyshop wont just paint the wing. The will mask the car leaving the wing full exposed, the door half exposed, the bonnet half exposed and in some cases the bumper half exposed, this allows the painter to fully paint the wing, but also wash some of the new paint into the doors and bonnet etc... which means when its finished you dont see a completely different coloured panel sticking out like a sore thumb, because the paint has been blended into its surroundings. There is no down side to this as the finsih is perfect and unnoticable if done correctly. This is a service we always offer when asked to paint a sole part.
As for time scale, we could have a car colour coded and back on the road in the same day, approx 7 hours, thanks to the state of the art high spec spray booth/oven.
If anyone is confused or need help, feel free to ask.
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Martin_C
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Registered: 27th Jun 03
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quote:
Originally posted by Colour-Tec Coachworks
Just thought i'd add my bit to this. How its done professionally:
Cars are matched using a digital paint imaging machine, which basically goes against the car and makes a formulation for the paint mixer, so the paint is near on perfect.
The other way in which the paint can be perfected is the same method used when repairing an accident damaged car. Example: if your car needs a new wing, most good bodyshop wont just paint the wing. The will mask the car leaving the wing full exposed, the door half exposed, the bonnet half exposed and in some cases the bumper half exposed, this allows the painter to fully paint the wing, but also wash some of the new paint into the doors and bonnet etc... which means when its finished you dont see a completely different coloured panel sticking out like a sore thumb, because the paint has been blended into its surroundings. There is no down side to this as the finsih is perfect and unnoticable if done correctly. This is a service we always offer when asked to paint a sole part.
As for time scale, we could have a car colour coded and back on the road in the same day, approx 7 hours, thanks to the state of the art high spec spray booth/oven.
If anyone is confused or need help, feel free to ask.
when spraying arches (dimpled effect like corsa), does sanding them not produce a hairy effect of the plastic? so you need to build up layers of high build primer first to get them smooth?
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Kris TD
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quote:
Originally posted by Colour-Tec Coachworks
Just thought i'd add my bit to this. How its done professionally:
Cars are matched using a digital paint imaging machine, which basically goes against the car and makes a formulation for the paint mixer, so the paint is near on perfect.
The other way in which the paint can be perfected is the same method used when repairing an accident damaged car. Example: if your car needs a new wing, most good bodyshop wont just paint the wing. The will mask the car leaving the wing full exposed, the door half exposed, the bonnet half exposed and in some cases the bumper half exposed, this allows the painter to fully paint the wing, but also wash some of the new paint into the doors and bonnet etc... which means when its finished you dont see a completely different coloured panel sticking out like a sore thumb, because the paint has been blended into its surroundings. There is no down side to this as the finsih is perfect and unnoticable if done correctly. This is a service we always offer when asked to paint a sole part.
As for time scale, we could have a car colour coded and back on the road in the same day, approx 7 hours, thanks to the state of the art high spec spray booth/oven.
If anyone is confused or need help, feel free to ask.
agreed, but if you see the state of red corsas you would realise that noone in there right mind would want paint matching to it, its pink.
at my bros work the other day they repaired an escort, boss that owns the bodyshop reversed it into a bollard and was a customers car, they had 1 1/2 hours before it was collected, in that time, bumper was fixed, boot was knocked out, and light replaced, all sprayed up too. cant fault how quickly they work, and this place isnt dodgy, they do the local mercedes dealerships cars and the peagoet dealers and the county councils cars.
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MC Kustoms
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when u get the hairy effect u need to sand with fine grit paper to get it smooth the aplay the primer
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Colour-Tec Coachworks
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With regards to the "hairy effect" 
Use a very fine sand paper on the plastics to give them a key. If u use fine enough grit, it will not cuase this "hariy effect"... so what to do now is start building the plastics up with a high build 2k primer, once you've got a good few coats on, you should be able to give the now primed plastics a rub down to remove the dimple, but without breaking through the primer, therfore ready to paint. Thats the process we use.
As for colour matching... yes your right, you dont match dull pink paint, thats what the bodyshopw will pick a panel i.e. the front wing, wet'n'dry a layer of old/oxidised paint off, then use high gloss compound polish by machine to bring the car to its original colour  ... then they match it
I reckon i could bring most of your cars up with polish and not a drop of paint, well i don reckon... i know... i do it all the time!. In actual fact, we have a small demo on our new site which you'll all be able to see soon. Its a nissan micra with the worst paint you have ever seen, the red paint is so sun bleached and oxidised, its not even pink, its grey'ish white ... we never used a drop of paint and car looks almost facory finish apart from some stone chips and shopping trip scrapes
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Kris TD
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i find using 1500 or 2000 grit then polish does the trick quite nicely 
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Colour-Tec Coachworks
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Indeed it does, we use it by machine tho, rather than hand, reduces the scratch pattern... all these we things add up to perfection
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Stone Cold Rattlesnake
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It is impossible to do any spraying myself or any bodywork although Id absolutely love to. Everything i do is out infront of my house in the street.
It is because i have nowhere to do this as i have no Garage no nothing, i think alot (not all) of people take their garages for granted for all those who live in non built up areas as theres barely enough space to swing a cat in London let alone have a garage unless u live in a big fancy house in London
It reply to original message - i think 470 is too much for colour coding imo but saying that ive been quoted far more ridiculous prices for simpler jobs (its a London ting  everyone loves to rip u off )
[Edited on 19-01-2004 by Stone Cold Rattlesnake]
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Andy_S
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I payed 150 for mine, one place tried charging me 350, cos the palstic primer is expensive, wanker lol
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