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joeglow
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23rd Feb 04 at 19:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If i was to buy one of these engines for a transplant which would be the best for tunning. I would be looking around 120bhp-130bhp.

thanks.
M4tt
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23rd Feb 04 at 19:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they are both good for tuning, but the 1.6 is better, it alsow has an extra 16bhp over the 1.4 to begin with
Greg_M
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if you looking to mod the engine. than the Gsi is the better block, is well effected by any mod. a good inlet manifold, chip and full zorst system, youd be looking at 130ish
DangerousDave16v
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we'd all have Gsi's if insurance wasnt so f**king expensive!
so if you can afford the 1.6 have it!
Jambo
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1.4s can get 130+ BHP easily.

1.6 is obviously a better choice as its a larger capacity block and to get more than 130bhp on a 1.4 i think u have to spend ££££ on internal work and using a 1.6 bottom end for strenghth (?)

1.6 engines are v-tunable tho. Good choice. XE engine is more tunable and 150bhp as standard
Greg_M
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23rd Feb 04 at 22:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

20xe cossie cast is 150bhp as standard.
16xe is 109(gsi) and 106(sport)

inlet manifold set you back about 400-500, adds about 35% if chipped.
insurace on 1.4 is group 6, 1.6 is group 9 poss higher
BabyBlade
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could just buy my car for 2k
Dave
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quote:
Originally posted by Greg12v
20xe cossie cast is 150bhp as standard.
16xe is 109(gsi) and 106(sport)

inlet manifold set you back about 400-500, adds about 35% if chipped.
insurace on 1.4 is group 6, 1.6 is group 9 poss higher


Any XE is 150bhp as standard, regardless of Coscast. The earlier pre cat ones had 156bhp, but taking the cat off a later one would see the same power.

In reply to the original thread go for a 1.6, there is no sunbstitute for cubes.
Greg_M
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an xe? the 16 is c16xe or x16xe.

a valver is 150bhp yeah. cossiecast head is 156 your rite wasnt paying attention!
Dave
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23rd Feb 04 at 22:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Greg12v
an xe? the 16 is c16xe or x16xe.

a valver is 150bhp yeah. cossiecast head is 156 your rite wasnt paying attention!


You still aren't!! Coscast heads have no bearing on power! They are the same design, just of a better quality.
Greg_M
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23rd Feb 04 at 22:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thats what you get for being online at work! lol. all in all 1.6 is the better bet imo.

cossicast head was on later models, unsure if any available with cat. but to my knowledge you can remove cat on all valvers
Dave
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quote:
Originally posted by Greg12v
thats what you get for being online at work! lol. all in all 1.6 is the better bet imo.

cossicast head was on later models, unsure if any available with cat. but to my knowledge you can remove cat on all valvers


Coscast heads came on the first of the 20xe's, from then on they just crop up at random in any car, there is no real hard and fast rule about it.

You are right about the 1.6 though!
ainsley_brader
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The early coscast heads had larger valve guides than the ones that crop up later though
Dave
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^This is true, they still made the same power though

 
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