calidus
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my c16xe lump has a power steering pump on it and i believe it acts as a tensioner, does anyone know how I can get rid of the PAS pump and power steering on the car?
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Siberia
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oh didnt know this... is it on the timing belt or the auxilary belt?
i'm buying a c16XE at the weekend so need to know.
[Edited on 01-09-2004 by Siberia]
[Edited on 01-09-2004 by Siberia]
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Greasemonkey
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the auxillery drive belt has its own tensioner, the PAS just unbolts you will need a non powersteering engine mount which you probably already have.
Try and find a smaller belt that fits i suppose
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Siberia
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so the pump is driven byt he aux belt then?
^ edited that last post cos its made no sense 
[Edited on 01-09-2004 by Siberia]
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Greasemonkey
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yes that is correct, the cam belt only runs the water pump, and oil pump, the auxillery drives, alternator and PAS
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Joff
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Would the steering rack be different on a PAS / non-PAS Corsa?
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Siberia
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^ yeh the rack would have to be changed.
i might try and find a power steering rack for mine while the engine is out...
[Edited on 01-09-2004 by Siberia]
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Darren
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yeah need new rack as the PAS one with no pump weighs a bloody ton!!! 
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J100RSA
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u need alternator mount from a 1.4 16v without pas and front mount from save 1.4
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calidus
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when I fitted the lump last time I fitted a reservoir for fluid and left the pump as a tensioner.I fort about using just a v small belt but it wud have turned the one wheel round the wrong way I think?
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big eck
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quote:
Originally posted by Darren
yeah need new rack as the PAS one with no pump weighs a bloody ton!!!
This is soooo true, i've been running mine like this for nearly 2 yrs now and its deffo time to fit the pump me thinks 
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Siberia
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would the rack not be damaged driving for that long with no fluid being pumped to it....?
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RobHayes
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quote:
Originally posted by calidus
when I fitted the lump last time I fitted a reservoir for fluid and left the pump as a tensioner.I fort about using just a v small belt but it wud have turned the one wheel round the wrong way I think?
dont be silly robert. if the pump is just acting as a tensioner then the belt is turning in the same direction, whether its there or not. If you fitted a smaller belt it would remove the need for the tensioner, but all the pulleys will still spin the same direction.
science lecture over 
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ainsley_brader
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just get a front mount, tensioner and belt from a x14xe without PAS, what ive just done dead easy
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calidus
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Im going to a breakers tomoro, hopefully I can get all the rite bits lol unless any of u guys have some out there, thing is the engines in the breakers are in the cars  so may prove tricky to remove. Soooooo what I need is a mount for the alternator to move it forward,and a tensioner and belt? have u got a quick pic of what you have done ainsley as I cant vision it in my head lol
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Adam-D
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i changed a p/s c16xe to non p/s
i used a sri bottom v'belt pulley
put a v#belt pulley on the alt of a 1.48v well i used the 1.4 8v alt then used a 1.48v vbelt
the p/s pump and tensionr come off and you will need a engine mount as its biult into the p/s pump assenbly
then change the rack to a non p/s one and loose the resivoir and all pipeing
oh and get new track rod ends and get it tracked afterwards
hope this helps
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calidus
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well my car has electronic powersteering, so it may already have the engine mount I need, however as its a newer technology lump(one of the x12xe) and as the wiring loom was different it mite gimme a headache lol so wot Im looking for is an SRi lump in a breakers to whip the alternator and bracket off and the v belt tensioner ur saying?
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ainsley_brader
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no you dont want to go the v belt route long way round!
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ainsley_brader
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Your front engine mount should be fine i think they are th same.
You just need the tensioner from the 1.4, very difficult to take a picture of it in the car!
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Adam-D
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i think i have a tensoiner here doing fuck all
who wants it
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calidus
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okies dudes thanks for the advice  im off for a tour of breakers yards today to see what I can get
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Ojc
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1 second, I need help also.
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