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This is a continuing thread on the axis history forum, now these guys are very intelligent and its a very intresting read.
The thread is here http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=57853&start=15
IN CONCLUSION
The suggestion at this point is that by late 1944, Waffen-SS scientists in Germany had developed a catalyst or reagent, apparently a Waxy Substance, maybe a plasmoid of some kind, which when added to a conventional explosive containing liquid air vastly magnified the effect, killing everything within a three mile radius by blast, tremendous heat and suffocation. It appears also to have had undesirable meteorological effects.
In this last part of my article, I am proceeding on the hypothesis, based on material posted earlier in the thread, that such a catalyst or reagent existed, that it could be mass-produced, and that the killing effect of every bomb was equivalent to a Hiroshima atom bomb.
On 16 April 1945 the Type XB submarine U-234 (KL Fehler) departed Christiansand, Norway for Japan direct. She had loaded at Kiel in January and February, and besides a strategic cargo in the region of 260 tonnes carried ten German and two Japanese passengers, all of whom were specialists in the military field or scientists.
On 17 May 1945, against his express orders, KL Fehler decided to surrender his submarine to the US Navy, and arrived two days later at Portsmouth Navy Yard, New Hampshire.
What is principally of interest is the cargo, and in particular ten cases of "uranium oxide" of 560 kgs weight, and several items which were not included on the Unloading Manifest.
The Unloading Manifest (US NAT Arch, College Park MD, Box RG38, Box 13, Document OP-20-3-G1-A (Unloading Manifest) dated 24 May 1945) is a falsified document purporting to show the entire cargo aboard U-234. The true Manifests, both American and German, have never been declassified. In the normal course of events, a Manifest upon declassification would bear the censor's deletions where it was intended that certain items should not be displayed. The USN alleged Unloading Manifest is clean of any deletions and purports to be the true Unloading Manifest. From a declassified cable, it is evident that 80 cases of Uranium Powder have been omitted, as was also, from the statements of the U-boat crew members and KL Fehler, a two-seater Me 262 bomber aircraft brought from Rechlin and stowed in its component parts.
Germany had 1200 tonnes of uranium oxide on hand at Oolen in Belgium throughout the war but made no strides towards making an atom bomb. Nevertheless, many commentators fantasize an embryonic atom bomb in the 560 kilos of "uranium oxide" aboard U-234. It is a fantasy, for such evidence as exists points to this being a cover word for something else.
Two official documents address the ten cases of "uranium oxide" directly.
(1) A report headed "Regarding 'URANIUM OXIDE' and other CARGO aboard U-234" on the interrogation of Geschwaderrichter Kay Nieschling, U-234 passenger by USN Intelligence Officer Lt Best states that "Lt Pfaff was the man responsible for loading the U-boat" and that "the meaning behind the ore" - peculiar phrase suggesting that the ore was not the ore -would be known by FKptn Falk (or Falck) who took some secret courses before he boarded the U-boat. KL Fehler should also know something about the ore."
It does not appear that FKpt Falk or Falck survived his interrogation, for there is no record of his return to Germany, and the US authorities have not been able to account for his movements in their custody after interrogating him on 26 May 1945. There are other indications that the "uranium ore" was extraordinary. Lt Col John Lansdale, Chief of security for the Manhattan Project, wrote in a 1996 newspaper article published in Britain and Germany that he had personally handled the disposal of the ten cases. He stated that the American military authorities "reacted with panic" when they learned what the cases contained.
(2) The second document was found by researcher Joseph Mark Scalia, a former 12-year US Navy man, during a rummage through old boxes at the Portsmouth Navy Yard. It is a secret cable from CNO to NYPORT on the subject "MINE TUBES, UNLOADING OF" and states:
"Interrogation Lt Pfaff IIWO U-234 discloses he was in charge of cargo and personally supervised loading all mine tubes. Pfaff prepared Manifest List and knows kind cargo in each tube. Uranium Oxide loaded in gold-lined cylinders and as long as cylinders not opened can be handled like crude TNT. These containers should not be opened as substance will become sensitive and dangerous...."
The so-called "Uranium Oxide" would become sensitive and dangerous if exposed to AIR. The so-called "Uranium Oxide" was perfectly safe in its cylinders provided one respected it as one would dynamite. The so-called "Uranium Oxide" was sealed in a cylinder lined with gold.
In nuclear physics gold is used to absorb fission fragments plus gamma rays in containers, and is particularly efficient at capturing neutron radiation as well. From this it is evident that the material in the ten cylinders was not just highly radioactive - it was extraordinarily dangerous and behaving as if it were itself a nuclear reactor. No atomic physicist who has examined the evidence about these ten cases has been able to deliver an opinion as to what substance kept within a lead case might have required these extraordinary precautions.
On 24 May 1945, when the US Navy began to unload U-234, it is clear from the US State papers that no decision regarding the atom bomb had been taken by the US Government. On 30 May 1945, both Secretary of State Stimson and President Truman were agreed that NO ALTERNATIVE existed to deploying America's atomic arsenal against Japan.
They had NO ALTERNATIVE to using the atom bomb, and no satisfactory reason has ever been forthcoming why that decision was made. So what could have caused these two decent men to decide that such a course of action was unavoidable?
What was aboard U-234 might also be aboard other Japan-bound U-boats. This was the crucial point in their thinking. There is a post in the "Kriegsmarine" Forum set up by Jim S on Thursday 8 July 2004 under the heading "U-234".
He speaks of a video tape he has seen and a few lines down describes how:
"....the tape showed two huge Japanese submarines with a range of 30,000 miles that were capable of being used as aircraft launchers. The Japanese had a plan of MIXING THE URANIUM (from U-234) WITH STANDARD EXPLOSIVES and loading them in bombs or planes which were to take off the submarines and attack San Francisco. The target date was August 1945, and they were ready and waiting for the shipment of uranium. The submarine was still at sea when......"
This makes no sense UNLESS the "uranium" from U-234 was the Waxy Substance which when mixed with conventional explosives turned the material into the Miracle Weapon. It would be my guess that these two Japanese submarines were very close in to San Francisco, and the pilots of the bomber aircraft would have to be kamikazes, for proximity to the Waxy Substance meant certain death.
If the Japanese were in the process of being supplied with this material by Germans U-boats for use against US West Coast cities, this was the reason for the nuclear attacks against Japan.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
This is a continuing thread on the axis history forum, now these guys are very intelligent and its a very intresting read.
The thread is here http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=57853&start=15
IN CONCLUSION
I'm a fool and believe everything I read
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Ojc
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Read the fcuking thread you dumb arse.
It all adds up.
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Read the fcuking thread you dumb arse.
It all adds up.
the only thing it adds up to is your stupidity
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Ojc
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Your fcuking ignorance to clear cut facts.
Fools
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Shelly
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Ollie, I am blonde. Can you sum it up in a couple of basic sentences for me?
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^^^
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Im not blonde, but its too much too read can someone summarise it for me pls
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Ojc
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Germany managed to create a unconventional nuclear device which interferes with meterlogical events.
They were trying to transport it to Japan so they could use it on America when the U-boat carrying the material was intercepted and had to surrender to the Americans (U-234)
Read it for lots of more detail.
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why haven't / didn't the americans use or reverse engineer or carry on the plans the germans had then?
also i find your threads intresting but no one is gonna read all that
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Sounds like something out of bond film 
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Im still certain the machines are taking over
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Shelly
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This scares me Aunty Nat 
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I don't come in OD much and when I do I find you in here sprouting this crap
All adds up to me... OD is ghey.
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Ojc
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You are fools if you do not read it.
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I'd imagine OJC is one of those people who thinks that NASA didn't land people on the moon and it was just a highly elaborate hoax.
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Is this just standard Uranium or Frikin "uranium"? 
Still no sign of that "laser" yet then?
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