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DP.
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   11th Nov 04 at 19:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi.... I was just wondering if anyone has adjusted the brake bias valve on their corsa when fitting the bigger calipers up front?

My car is pulling to one side when braking hard and i suspect this may be down to the rear brakes doing most of the braking. As i had new drums fitted a couple weeks back and before then the rear brakes were doing bugger all.

Any advice apreciated!
PaulW
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11th Nov 04 at 19:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i fit V6 calipers & lowered the car 60mm at same time...

tbh I think each other cancelled it out as when the car was in for its MOT they said the brakes were balanced well which suprised them due to the size of the calipers!
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11th Nov 04 at 19:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

but as for pulling to one side, just bleed the brakes, front & rear, and topup the fluid see if that helps...

tbh sounds like air in one side of the system!
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11th Nov 04 at 20:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its been bled all round twice already... im pretty confident that theres no air in there

Another reason why i thought the rear was braking too much is since i had the new drums fitted the garage obviously tentioned up the shoes correctly etc and since then the abs has been kicking in more frequently which leads me to believe the rear wheels are trying to lock up
James R
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11th Nov 04 at 20:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Sticky caliper then, that's what causes turnign under braking. get it to a MOT tester to have the brakes check, they should do it for free for you, and tell you the balance of the car.
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the rear drums are self tentioning, and the ABS is probably triggering cos the V6 calipers have a tendancy of locking up the disks, even a slight difference in rotation between the individual wheels will convince the ABS system into you are going into a skid and it will opperate.
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11th Nov 04 at 21:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the calipers were new on a month or 2 ago... and the MOT was done last month and nothing was picked up as unusual.

its just that the ABS has had a tendancy to kick in more frequently since the drums were done (week after mot)
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11th Nov 04 at 21:23   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

regarding the original q, i didnt adjust the brake bias with my v6's
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11th Nov 04 at 21:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've never adjusted mine with lowering and/or fitting bigger brakes up front.

Think I should tho..
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11th Nov 04 at 22:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ABS is for girls anyways

Not a fan of V6 calipers, they weight a ton :O
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haha yea they are quite heavy..

and i think i'll have a check to see if theres any tention on the spring mehanism without the car been jacked up. If there is then i might try taking the spring off to see if i can tell much difference lol
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quote:
Originally posted by DP.
haha yea they are quite heavy..

and i think i'll have a check to see if theres any tention on the spring mehanism without the car been jacked up. If there is then i might try taking the spring off to see if i can tell much difference lol


my mate runs standard brakes on his 1.6 sport and he had probs with the back end locking up so hye removed the spring, imporved the locking up-dont do it any more-no other side effects eather
James R
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12th Nov 04 at 08:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Also had problem on 2L brakes, wound out the bia asjuster on the rear beam and improved things

Wilwood dynalite2 1.13kgs
V6 calipers circa 5KGS
8kg saving (ish)
Siberia
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12th Nov 04 at 10:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeh but how much extra to wilwoods cost though ...
James R
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£299+VAT from raldes

But you get 4 pistons instead of 1, they're lighter, more power, and have universal resale-ability.
Siberia
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thats just for the cailpers? do they fit strait on? and do they fit the GM 284/288mm disks....

questions questions
DP.
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hmmm... some 4 pot calipers would be nice i guess

how much can you get the kits for?

any reccommended urls?
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12th Nov 04 at 13:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

www.raldes.co.uk

That consists of, calipers(x2) brackets to fit, 280mm dics, and bolts.
Pads would be needed and new hoses.

4 pots are the way forward
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12th Nov 04 at 13:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ahhhhhhhh!! y didnt i see them a few months when i was ordering my brakes i always though 4 pots would cost the earth....
DP.
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12th Nov 04 at 20:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yea same here .. i wish i had seem em before i got my v6 kit

Is thise the correct kit J1400?
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=562_563_576&products_id=4006&osCsid=058874eb8be94a672c58c3b70773e20a

i still may consider it

so just need pads and hoses... which pads did u get?

you still got original corsa master cylinder?
James R
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12th Nov 04 at 20:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You can choose from various temp ranges, personally on a road car ones that bite from 0degrees are best, I have track ones on mine but onld start to work at 200deg, so aren't good on road use.
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12th Nov 04 at 20:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

YEs that's thje kit
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I don't have a brake bias valve
DP.
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13th Nov 04 at 00:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hmm...

V6 Calipers - 288mm discs
4pot kit - 280mm discs

How much difference do you reckon there would be with braking performance for both the road and occasional trackday use?

BUt i couldn't see any temp range options for that kit?

I thnk the brake bias valve was only on the 1.4 and 1.6 corsa b's as there was a pressure regulating valves for corsa b's with the smaller engine

 
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