MoNkEy MaGiC
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Registered: 12th Apr 03
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just want to know whos had engine rebuilds, in particular the 1.6 16v, but any will do!
as my C16XE is in need of one really soon! drinking/burning and leaking oil and so i want to find out more info about it from people who have had it done before i go ahead 
if you can just list the engine model with current milleage, cost of rebuild, were it was done, what was done exactly and main reason it needed it and any other advice or info, thanks 
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Rileysport
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Registered: 18th Jun 04
Location: West Yorkshire
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greasemonkey knows his c16 lumps
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MoNkEy MaGiC
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oh yes ive had a good chat with him in past and he's cleared a few things up for me
i want to know how many other people on here have had it done and any other advice or help
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MJ
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Registered: 18th Sep 03
Location: Hampshire Drives: ITR DC2 + Skoda Felicia
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i gave mine a top head overhall a while back, if thats anyhelp, engine had done 130k, changed a few rockers and cleaned the tappets as well as fitting a new head gasket
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Siberia
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Registered: 9th Oct 03
Location: Leprechaun Land Drives : Zafira GSI
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buy a haynes everything you need to know is in there... if you cant do it after reading that leave it to someone who can...
its not difficult... the only issue i'd have is the hassle of gettign all the bits together but just talk to autovaux.co.uk and they should be able to suply you with em...
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Rileysport
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Registered: 18th Jun 04
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the 16v vaux lumps are easier to rebuild than most people would have you think... for me anyway 
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MoNkEy MaGiC
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yes i have a Haynes manual, ive literally read the whole thing!!
just trying to get as much info as possible, i would love to do it myself, but i lack experience and i dont think i have all the tools needed to do the job properly myself! 
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Greasemonkey
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I have re-built the C16XE twice so what ya wanna know, mail me on kris.spencer@kpw-architects.co.uk if im not on here as i nearly got sacked for using CS too much lol
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Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by MoNkEy MaGiC
yes i have a Haynes manual, ive literally read the whole thing!!
just trying to get as much info as possible, i would love to do it myself, but i lack experience and i dont think i have all the tools needed to do the job properly myself!
tools are 70% of the job!! sure ya can buy most of the tools ya would need in any good tool shop..... the main thing is to have confidence in yourself
if you understand the haynes then pull the fooker appart
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Greasemonkey
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From my experience always expect the worse and budget for it, my engine re-build cost nearly twice what i thought it would!!!!!
Mind you i didnt build it standard though, so the extras went on ARP's SBD idlers, Oversized pistons, lightening and balancing etc, porting and polishing
[Edited on 11-02-2005 by Greasemonkey]
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Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by Greasemonkey
From my experience always expect the worse and budget for it, my engine re-build cost nearly twice what i thought it would!!!!!
Mind you i didnt build it standard though, so the extras went on ARP's SBD idlers, Oversized pistons, lightening and balancing etc, porting and polishing
[Edited on 11-02-2005 by Greasemonkey]
and rebuilding it 5 or 6 times 
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Greasemonkey
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lol, that wasnt my fault, pissing P>C Automotive in Lincoln
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James R
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Registered: 4th Feb 03
Location: 205GTi16/306GTi16
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I've done 5 top end rebuilds on these now. It's cheaper to buy a complete X16XE and stick the inlet and exhaust on it than rebuild and the hassle of running in too.
It's all pretty simple, replace stems and lap the valves in. clean the mating surfaces I find scotchbrite pads are good. If you feel brave while it's stripped down you could smooth out the massive step on the bottom of the inlet ports where the valve seats have been cut in. and put back together.
Then stick a X16XE bottom end on that's low mileage, as there's numerous astras, vectra etc.. you can pic them up easier than a 1.4.
New timing belt water pump etc...
Weekends work.
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James R
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See yellows arrows for the step as mentioned.
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James R
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To clean tyhe heads of the valves, just get a drill bit brush and strap the drill down, or fit it to the bench grinder and then clean off the heads to get the cr*p off.
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Siberia
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i love WIP pics.... am i wierd?
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Rileysport
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yes, yes you are
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Stu_22
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quote:
Originally posted by j1400
To clean tyhe heads of the valves, just get a drill bit brush and strap the drill down, or fit it to the bench grinder and then clean off the heads to get the cr*p off.
Just watch the fingers wear some thick gloves
[Edited on 11-02-2005 by Stu_22]
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Stu_22
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Registered: 25th Mar 02
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Valve stem seals down there
Also try and get a spare set of lifters and soak them in petrolfor a month
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MoNkEy MaGiC
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thanks everyone for help and advice, but....
how much would a GOOD full-rebuid cost from a garage??
and so, how much would i save if i do it all myslef, bearing in mind i have to get some tools also??
right now i dont think i will be doing it myself.. but if i do it will have to be much more later on in year when i have free time but i dont think engine will last that long its getting a bit worse each month!!
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danny boyo
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Registered: 15th Nov 02
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me and it costs a fourtune
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MoNkEy MaGiC
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v-tuning quoted me around £1000 (estimate) for a full rebuild a few months ago, it included everything being replaced from top to bottom and uprating were needed to accompany power mods in future...
is this a good price??
i can get it cheaper elsewere but i have heard V-tuning are very good and have a lot of experience, but i dont know if they offer any gaurantees/warranty on the work done? coz the last thing i want is for it to go pop a few days or months later!!
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