xXSpUdXx
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205 1.9 gti with a 1.6 gear box is best/cheapest way to get into rallying imo, got to look at if you want to do it for fun or want to try to compete but at the end of the day all comes down to money
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a_j_mair
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Registered: 23rd Jan 04
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would love to do some rally driving for fun rather than to compete. i realise money would be a large factor as nothing is cheap 
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by starkmotorsport
To be honest, if you want to compete in any type of motorsport, forget the words cheap and budget. If you want to build and race properly, money is a key factor and you WILL spend a scary amount.
The first thing you HAVE to do is join a motor club. You have to be a member to compete. Check out the MSA website for a list of clubs near you. Go along to meetings and talk to the club members, as they will already have done whatever you want to do a hundred times and their experience will save you invaluble ammounts of time and money.
As JR said, you need to decide what motorsport you want to compete in. There are hundreds to choose from, so go along to events and get a feel for each type. Only once you've done that do you decide what you want to do, and therefore ultimately whats the best car for you. Classes are everything, so the oh-so-common 2.0 Corsa will be eaten up by Escorts/Impreza's etc as you will be in the same class. Start small and work up - you'll be surprised how fast some 1300's/1400's and 1600's really are.
Most importantly you need to enjoy what your doing, but as a reality check, there are Mk1+2 Escorts in local "clubman" events worth £40k and WRC's worth £100k upwards earning top ten positions.
If your serious about competing, feel free to email me and I'll help you out the best I can.
words of wisdom! people think they can wack a cage int otheir car and be away, but even the standard engines (if you can call them standard) would be a hell of a lot faster than most of the tuned ones we find on here, suspension and brakes are a huge factor and they cost a hell of a lot!
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micra_pete
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Registered: 23rd Apr 03
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it completely depends on the type of rally, its not just big budgets, the lower classes are still expensive but more accessable.
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Mather.16v
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a mate is serious about his rallying, its serious money tho, he takes part in 1400's
think hes selling his s1 106 for around 12k, thats running around 160bhp
and is currently building a corsa, 1.4 sport engine, throttle bodies etc shold be running just under 200bhp. his last one was 215 break!! - already spent 3.5 on suspension mods
[Edited on 01-12-2005 by Mather.16v]
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Teddy
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quote:
Originally posted by starkmotorsport
To be honest, if you want to compete in any type of motorsport, forget the words cheap and budget. If you want to build and race properly, money is a key factor and you WILL spend a scary amount.
The first thing you HAVE to do is join a motor club. You have to be a member to compete. Check out the MSA website for a list of clubs near you. Go along to meetings and talk to the club members, as they will already have done whatever you want to do a hundred times and their experience will save you invaluble ammounts of time and money.
As JR said, you need to decide what motorsport you want to compete in. There are hundreds to choose from, so go along to events and get a feel for each type. Only once you've done that do you decide what you want to do, and therefore ultimately whats the best car for you. Classes are everything, so the oh-so-common 2.0 Corsa will be eaten up by Escorts/Impreza's etc as you will be in the same class. Start small and work up - you'll be surprised how fast some 1300's/1400's and 1600's really are.
Most importantly you need to enjoy what your doing, but as a reality check, there are Mk1+2 Escorts in local "clubman" events worth £40k and WRC's worth £100k upwards earning top ten positions.
If your serious about competing, feel free to email me and I'll help you out the best I can.
Amen.
Spot on that.
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3CorsaMeal
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pug 205 or mk4 escort
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Kano
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My car witha 16v in it would be an ideal start...
Heres a pic:
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starkmotorsport
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A number of people have emailed me asking roughly the same question - I want to build a Corsa LET/XE/whatever.
Your all missing the point. As I said above, classes are everything, so a 2.0 Corsa will be competing against Escorts (new and old), Impreza's, Darrian's etc and WILL be outpaced unless major work is done to the engine and handling. Plus they're heavy and understeer which is not a good thing when your starting out.
I know of a 1300 8v Nova which had minor engine moddifications but had the brakes and sus. set up perfectly. This car was LEADING the Scottish Tarmac Rally Championship until the driver ran out of funds. Ok, driver input is a big factor, but the "little" engine was walking past everyone.
Another example : a good friend of mine was competing abroad in a 1300 8v 205. He PASSED a Super 1600 Clio on two stages. The clio was in perfect working order. Says a lot for the "I need a 2.0" arguement.
If you want to compete, start small and work your way up. If your pride cant handle you driving a car less than 2000cc then you need to take a good look at yourself.
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micra_pete
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Registered: 23rd Apr 03
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its same with the micra, both the standard 1000's in the f1000, and the 1.3 modified or kit car versions, the cars are cheap, and engines are ten a penny, and they are very competitive in every class they are in, and im not just saying that as a k11 owner. the top 1.3 cars produce over 150bhp, and are "relatively" cheap, if you want to get into rallying, this level is the way forward, not 2.0 corsas.
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AK
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Registered: 5th Jul 00
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a 1300 SR nove is where id'd start...
or a 1.9 1.6 205 GTi.....
I havent built my corsa to race in classes.... just fun track days etc
My corsa expenses must be near 20k by now though... 
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