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Author NOS or Cams and Remap - which is best?
Cheb
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27th Feb 06 at 18:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Got a choice of what to do to the car next either,

progressive 40bhp of nos from wizards of nos, or regal are doing sport cams and the remap to take it to 160bhp.

thing is, never been in a car with nos and dont know which would be the better option, anyone any ideas which would be the best??

its on a 1.8 corsa c

thank
Tom B
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27th Feb 06 at 18:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Cams and Remap
Cheb
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Cheers, any perticular reason??? any ideas of throttle bodies for SRi?
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wouldnt get nos

its illegal and can wreck you car
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quote:
Originally posted by Badb0y
Cams and Remap


pointless on standard ecu. gains will be minimal. need to go to standalone mappable management with vernier pulleys to be able to time them properly.
Ry_B
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NOS is just expensive and needs a refill every so often. Also dodgey on a road car and can fuck the engine
Rileysport
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1) nos isnt illegal as such
2) a decent setup on a progressive controller will be safe, just dont get greedy
stinga
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but with cams and re-map you'd get a permanent bhp increase where as with nos its manual performance if that makes sense
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quote:
Originally posted by stinga
but with cams and re-map you'd get a permanent bhp increase where as with nos its manual performance if that makes sense


With you on this one. If it was me, I would rather have the power there all the time instead of having to push a button for it.
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28th Feb 06 at 14:09   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
cams and a remap will not take it from 123 bhp to 160 Bhp. you might see 130 bhp

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quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W
quote:
Originally posted by stinga
but with cams and re-map you'd get a permanent bhp increase where as with nos its manual performance if that makes sense


With you on this one. If it was me, I would rather have the power there all the time instead of having to push a button for it.


i believe a progressive controller was mentioned... no f&f action here

[Edited on 28-02-2006 by SRi-Co]
Rob B
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hmm progressive NOS
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quote:
Originally posted by SRi-Co
quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W
quote:
Originally posted by stinga
but with cams and re-map you'd get a permanent bhp increase where as with nos its manual performance if that makes sense


With you on this one. If it was me, I would rather have the power there all the time instead of having to push a button for it.


i believe a progressive controller was mentioned... no f&f action here

[Edited on 28-02-2006 by SRi-Co]


Sorry boss
Cheb
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it is possible, regal do the stuff, its on the home page if you scroll down you will find this:

Power Cams and software package for Z18XE

160 bhp Z18XE kit

Just released...

Available for all Z18XE applications:
-Astra G
-Astra H
-Corsa
-Vectra
-Zafira

Increases power from 120 bhp to
160 bhp


Software - £350
Camshafts - £480

im new to engine modifying, so any help is much appriciated, was getting a timing belt change as well with the upgrade.
topshot_2k
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28th Feb 06 at 20:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
no way will cams and re-map alone increase by 40bhp more like 120 to 135ish MAX
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lol @ those claims!
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thats regal for you! their claims are always over estimated. ask them for a guarantee that the cams and software will produce that much power. also read the spec, its not a guaranteed increase. a gain of 10 bhp is achieveable.
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in a way, a bit like SBD's 164 throttle body kit. everyone i know that bolted this kit on produced between 147 and 155 bhp.
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glad i dont have an sbd 164kit lol!
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did they use SBD exhaust manifold though... they state that
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well, 2 out of the 5 ive met did, but the figures were very similar.
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Thats all the inforamtion they have on there website about it, but will call them a bit closer to the time to see if they can near enough guarantee a 40bhp increase by testing it before and after.

Surely they cant advertise that it will give you 160bhp when most you will see is around 10bhp increase, that only a 1/4 of what they say.

Spoke to a guy from regal other day and says the remap takes it to around 140bhp, and i know superchips can give it another 12bhp, but again this is only stated on there website.
Cheb
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what is the SBD kit??
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hahah 12bhp from a superchip
Dave A
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ignore both the regal and superchips claims

 
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