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Bart
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19th May 06 at 20:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Does anyone know if its possible to use ordinary telephony cable (twisted pairs) as network cable?

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19th May 06 at 21:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How many cables are there inside the shielding?

If four, no; if eight, possibly.
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Its far lower quality wire, less twists per inch so there's far greater loss at high speeds.

Will work though up to a few metres. If you're going any longer use 10 base network cards and go slower.
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Dan, thought only 4 or the 8 wires were actually used in Cat5 cable, so phone line cable should work over short distances?
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20th May 06 at 04:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you may also suffer data loss if using telephony cabling, it has far lower quality shielding that network cabling. why do you ask?
PhilC
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Won't work, even if you change the RJ11s to RJ45s to make it fit the socket!
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20th May 06 at 16:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You can get 100m of network cable for a good price now a days

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=2105&GroupID=38

And you could wire it up as phone cabling (with the correct jack) as well, so in the future to allow upscaling if that is an issue when everything become VoIP.

[Edited on 20-05-2006 by Jodi_the_g]
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20th May 06 at 16:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Give it a go because i'm curious and can't be annoyed making some up myself.
I can't see any reason for it not working.
Cat5 is just bits of metal the same as any other cable except a bit higher quality.
As said above you just might get more errors and only work over a shorter distance.

After a quick look on google it is exactly the same.
Cheap network cabling is probably only telephone grade anyway and most cat5 isn't even shielded.
Cat5 is 3 twists per inch of 24guage copper pairs.

[Edited on 20-05-2006 by John]
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Give it a go because i'm curious and can't be annoyed making some up myself.
I can't see any reason for it not working.
Cat5 is just bits of metal the same as any other cable except a bit higher quality.
As said above you just might get more errors and only work over a shorter distance.


Your right john it will work. if you have enough wires though the only problem will be the quilaty of singal.
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as i mentioned above, signal loss will be significant. its just not worth it, what with the hassle of changing the socket types
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Takes about 2 mins to crimp on a couple of rj45 connectors.
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if you have the tools...

 
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