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a_j_mair

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26th Jun 06 at 09:51

Facts and stats only please

other thread deleted as to much chav this, that etc

Ditch

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26th Jun 06 at 09:53

identical up to 100mph I would guess...

CTR after a ton

psycho sport

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26th Jun 06 at 10:01

CTR - 197 bhp, 1204kg, 6.57 to 60, 16.85 to 100, 10.28 60-100

Cupra R - 180bhp, 1119kg, 6.67 to 60, 17.43 to 100, 10.76 60 to 100

psycho sport

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26th Jun 06 at 10:01

Remap the Cupra R and your laughing!

Steve

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26th Jun 06 at 10:03

a_j_mair

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26th Jun 06 at 10:03

girlfriend has a type R but i am a better driver

Ditch

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26th Jun 06 at 10:08

woman who cant drive in the civic

Can - Worms - Open !

Steve

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26th Jun 06 at 10:09

....worms everywhere

Mattss Corsa

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26th Jun 06 at 10:25

I would rather the cupra R tho.

VTEC'S get boring

Prefer Turbo's....

antscorsa

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26th Jun 06 at 10:27

thats the cupra-r tho uber rare. id still prefer the civic on the driver position etc, much prefer it over my mates ibiza cupra.
both nice cars tho.

[Edited on 26-06-2006 by antscorsa]

Steve

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26th Jun 06 at 10:31

quote:
Originally posted by antscorsa
thats the cupra-r tho uber rare. id still prefer the civic on the driver position etc, much prefer it over my mates ibiza cupra.
both nice cars tho.

[Edited on 26-06-2006 by antscorsa]

antscorsa

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26th Jun 06 at 10:34

haha i await ur replies everytime steve!!

Corsa_Carl

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26th Jun 06 at 12:11

i dont know much about these two but id definatly have the cupra over the ctr anyday

SetH

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26th Jun 06 at 12:16

500 remap on the cupra and yes you are laughing.

what will £500 get you on a civic, mugen airbox and 5 BHP?

was ready jap performance mag this morning where they were tested airboxes, exhausts and DATFLASH ECU. The amount of money you have to throw at the CTR to get even small power gains.

son on this basis i would say cupra R for cheap in comparsion tuning options.

Ry_B

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26th Jun 06 at 12:31

quote:
Originally posted by psycho sport
Remap the Cupra R and your laughing!

Remap the CTR with a K-pro and you're laughing aswell.

You can't compare modded - standard, just not fair.

Ry_B

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26th Jun 06 at 12:32

quote:
Originally posted by SetH
was ready jap performance mag this morning where they were tested airboxes, exhausts and DATFLASH ECU. The amount of money you have to throw at the CTR to get even small power gains.

son on this basis i would say cupra R for cheap in comparsion tuning options.

Most cars with a turbo can be tuned easier than N/A cars

Nath

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26th Jun 06 at 12:53

Either way i'd take the Cupra-R and pocket the change. That way you'll have a rarer car with better tuning potential. Plus Ibiza Cupra-R's looks better than CTR's IMO IMO IMO

Mattb

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26th Jun 06 at 12:59

i thought cupra r's were 225bhp?? and the cupra was 180bhp... or is that just the leon

Nath

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26th Jun 06 at 13:03

quote:
Originally posted by Mattb
i thought cupra r's were 225bhp?? and the cupra was 180bhp... or is that just the leon

Leon.

Ibiza Cupra 156bhp, and Ibiza Cupra-R 180bhp

whitter45

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26th Jun 06 at 13:21

need to piggy back ECU on the CTR becuase of the way its done

Some company in america are the only ones who do this at the moment

Throw 500 at the cupra with a remap and you will see 220 BHP on the Cupra R and 200 on the Cupra

Throw 3K at the civic and you can supercharge it and see 350 BHP

Choice is yours

As standard pound for pound CTR is more value for money but spend 500 on a remap and the cupra will become alot more appealing

Just make sure you have deep pockets cos once the modding starts on the 1.8 T you can never stop - i should know

[Edited on 26-06-2006 by whitter45]

SetH

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26th Jun 06 at 14:06

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Throw 500 at the cupra with a remap and you will see 220 BHP on the Cupra R and 200 on the Cupra

Not true, they both remap to the same levels. Same Engine, both K03 Turbo, only difference in engine spec is the software.

Ie average revo will give give cupra 156 - 210 ish and cupra R 180 - 210 ish also, more bang per buck on the normal cupra.

ryansss

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26th Jun 06 at 14:59

Seth is spot on with regard to money. I've spent £400 on my CTR and prob gained 10bhp. Had I bought the Seat I'd be laughing on the straights.

I love my civic as poor Steve knows as I'm one of a few peps on here that like it. Personal choice at the end of the day. I like the civic looks, but I like the fact the seat is rare and cheap to upgrade.

VTEC - It varies from honda to honda, but the civic vtec on mine has quite a kick that I wont get bored with. Bad points of VTEC of bad wheel spin in the wet all through the gears!!!

Here's a clip of mine, and yeah I know I dabed the brake on the corner when I shouldnt of done, and went to on the second but thought better of it (quick flash of brake light). Might add it was in the middle of private estate (prob shouldnt of been there) not on public highways for obvious reasons. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=867042123&n=2

ryansss

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26th Jun 06 at 15:02

Also that was a one off. I wanted to know how my car sounded so ragged it for the camera - bad me.

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