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PaulW
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20th Sep 06 at 13:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Now, this will be something I will be building over the next 6 months, but its primary use will be for games development, so plenty of C++/ASM, 3D Modelling & Rendering, need plenty of storage, backup facilities, etc...

Budget - about £3.5k, so not too limited...

Needing something which will 'hopefully' comply to DX10 and be future-proof for atleast 1.5 to 2yrs (given the way the industry is advancing so quick)
John
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dual core 64 bit pentium i think are the fastest atm.
at least 2gig of ram.
Couple of sata drives.
Dvd burner.
Sli or crossfire dx10 cards and a nice mboard.

Plenty of money left for monitors and backup.

No point building it over 6 months either.
Just wait and buy everythin in 1 go to get everythin for the cheapest you can.
PaulW
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well 6 months is how long to get the cash needed...

was also thinking against SATA and just going for SCSI or something, alot of SATA RAID controllers arent quite as robust as the SCSI alternatives...
John
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SCSI is old hat now.
SataII and make sure you get a board with a good controller.
PaulW
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may well be old hat, but its still a tried & tested method in regards to reliability, SATAII is still not matured enough for 'serious' use IMO

although, possibility of a SATAII/SCSI setup (SATAII for OS/Swap/Programs, SCSI Raid5 for Storage) might be a better option for now...
John
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You aren't running anything mission critical here.
Sata is perfectly fine for running on your machine.
If you needed 24/7 uptime or somebody could die that would be a different matter.

I know what you mean by serious but the way the hard drives are accessed isn't a big worry for what you are doing.
SataII is fast and thats all you need really.
Unless there are any specific sata issues you know about that i'm not aware of.

I will be building a system at about new year and i'm aiming for the same sort of spec you seem to be although not with anywhere close to that budget.

I'll try and remember to post how i'm getting on in here
WATSON
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quote:
Originally posted by PaulWBudget - about £3.5k


Dan B
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If it's going to be dealing with plenty of heavy-duty rendering and modelling, I'd be tempted to suggest going for 4GB of decent-speed low-latency DDR2-RAM...

Seagate now do a 750GB SATA-2 drive, plumb for a few of those......and for backup purposes, have a look at the LaCie range of external firewire-800 drives, they currently support up to 2.5TB storage, I believe (although they're understandably not cheap).
PaulW
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tbh I will be neading storage easily in the region of 1TB+ given renderings & such, as all will originally be rendered with no compression, then final edited/encoded using other apps. I already gobbled up ~800Gb from just my first year in uni...
Russ
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u need core duo mate not dual core AMD with that sort of money, u could have anything u wanted
Russ
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oh and get sata2 2(or 4)x500gb seagate drives, quiet reliable and fast
Dan B
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It's Seagate that are doing the 750GB Sata-2 drive......2 of those should be plenty, unless you see yourself using more than 1.5TB.

Could always get a few, and RAID them...
PhilC
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Seagate drives always break! Although, 5 year warrenty. Discovered this when I was sat off in our stock room yesterday, reading product specs.
Jamie Walby
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TB?
Dan B
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamie Walby
TB?

Terabytes.........1TB = 1024GB (Gigabytes)
Jamie Walby
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thats insane amount.

I have a 200gb hard drive on my comp at home and I thought that was lots
Dan B
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I have a 250GB and a 120GB, and they're constantly full!

Although having 175GB of games probably doesn't help
PaulW
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21st Sep 06 at 14:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ive currently got....


800GB - full...
540GB Backup server - 60% full

so on second thoughts, may need more than 1.5TB
John
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If you don't need instant access to all the renders maybe think about some sort of tape backup.

 
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