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kz
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27th Aug 07 at 17:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

okay my amp has a new 'thing' atm... it runs perfectly for about 10 mins. then after that time, itll cut out for around 30 secs, then come back for 30 secs, then again cut out for 30 secs and it will repeat this process for as long as im driving. sendin me crazy!

how do i fix this, stronger battery, power cap? im running alpine h/u, phoenix gold amp to a jbl sub, i have about £300 to spend on fixing that and a general upgrade, any recommendations? i dont mind spending more... just means i gotta save up a bit more!
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what gauge is the power cable?
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27th Aug 07 at 17:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Does it over heat? checked the wiring? is the power cable good enough.. get back to us




[Edited on 27-08-2007 by pdwhelan]
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quote:
Originally posted by jake
what gauge is the power cable?


this sentence means nothing to me

quote:
Originally posted by pdwhelan
Does it over heat? checked the wiring? is the power cable good enough.. get back to us




[Edited on 27-08-2007 by pdwhelan]


i would presume it is overheating yeah. how exactly can i tell though other than it being hot? lol. the wiring all came with my old alpine type-r sub. cant remember the make of it but it was worth £40 (or so they say!)
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27th Aug 07 at 18:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

try turning it down for a bit see if it runs for longer...
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Have a look on the power cable and tell us what size it is (normally called gauge or awg) and how many Watts the amp is.
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what is the thickness of the cable? It should have it in white writing for example "4AWG" or just "4 gauge power cable

[Edited on 27-08-2007 by jake]
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As asaid above.. try turning the volumes down on the amp or the settings on the head unit.. When using it do you notice the head lights and interior lights dimming at all.
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I used to have the exact same problem with my amp, i changed all the fuses, including the one which is attatched to the amp and i also built another fuse into the line, but that was because i was runnng another amp aswell, after that it has been fine. Dont no if tht is any help to you or not.
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27th Aug 07 at 20:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

check the earth
if thats ok then maybee its overheating
time to turn it down or buy a bigger amp
kz
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right ill have a check of the cable and amp power tomorrow! im not turning it down though, i want it as loud as i want but wanna fix it to stay at that level obviously!

i do have another, much newer amp which is an alpine mono block... but it stoped working one day, i changed all the fuses but still nothing might try that one again see if it has come back to life!
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Just turn it down to see if it still cuts out.
kz
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
Just turn it down to see if it still cuts out.


no it wont. not if i have it low the whole time. but if it cuts out loud, then i turn it down, itll still cut out
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Have you got the right 'amp' fuse in the amplifier? U cud try using a different power 1! I.e my amp supose 2 hav 40amp fuse but i use 30 now, not had problems with it.
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oh right ill check that as well then cheers dude
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I wouldnt do that, its dangerous?

Tbh, it sounds like the Amp is popping into protection mode because its working tooo hard.
kz
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okay all i could find on the power lead was "autoleads hi grade power cable"

my amp is:

QX2180 Output Power: 4 ohm Mono 180 x 1
2 ohm Per Ch. 90 x 2
4 ohm Per Ch. 55 x 2

my sub is:

Dual Voice coil design (dual 6-ohm, pre-wired as a 3-ohm sub)
Power Handling, RMS: 700 Watts
Power Handling, Peak: 4000 Watts
Frequency Response (±3dB): 20Hz - 400Hz
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28th Aug 07 at 20:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

buy a more powerful amp
kz
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as i said ive got an alpine mono amp, which ill try out again

so is it more of the case that the amps not powerful enough, rather than the batterys not giving it enough power? if that makes sence
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Yeah, but if you go 4 bigger amps, a better battery or a capacitor might be worth a buy.
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The battery will give enough power (providing its not fooked), the amp will only draw what it needs, but then if its going into protect mode and you've checked everything outside to amp (ie wires etc ....) then it could have done damge inside the amp.

Try your amp in a mates car. If it does the same its the amp, if it doesnt then its your wiring.

At least then you will know what to look at
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29th Aug 07 at 18:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You cant damage an amp by lowering the amp fuse on it. All that would happen is that it would pop if the current got too high. It dangerous putting a higher rated fuse in.

Its probably over heating. recently my jbl amp has been getting rather hot and switching itself off for 5sec then switching on. As a temp measure to help it put the rear seats forward slighty so some of the warm air rises out
kz
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hi i got round to trying my alpine amp again...

now when i turn it on, everything looks fine, all the lights come on etc! but... there is no sound given to the sub!?

the temp shows up on the amp display, i change it to volts and it shows 12.3 V which sounds right to me. however, when changing the display to amps, it shows --- A i.e. nothing. could this be the amps problem? if so what do i do about it?

(i have made sure the fuses in there definitely work!)
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id personally re wire it all etc make sure there is no kinks in any wires, buy a new amp and then ur guranteed its guna cover all areas of problems.
kz
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its just the fact that all the wires work with one amp, but not the other... so it must be the amp right?

 
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