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Aaron
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27th Sep 07 at 22:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Right, i class myself fairly experienced in the field of IT. However I’m in need a bit of help on this one.

At work (a school) we’re assigned a 92.20.x.x address range from the local council. I don’t have a firewall on site (at the moment) and therefore there is no natting.

We (as well as every other school) need to do an IP change to a 10.x.x.x. range. At this point I’m going to beg for funds for a Sonic wall so i can set us up with a private range.

Anyway, my question is this.

Which devices with static addresses should i change first? Servers, Printers, Wireless Access points????

Never done anything like this before.

Thanks



[Edited on 27-09-2007 by Aj.]
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Can't you just do them all at once over a weekend or something?
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Yeah I’ll be doing them all at once doing the half term.

I was just wondering if doing it any particular order would help
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Wouldn't have thought it really matters. When I did network design at uni we were told to start with like .1 to .10 for servers for example, leaving a few for future expansion, then printers.

Do WAPs have IPs?
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Ah rite.

No probs then. The job should be fairly easy. We only have 9 servers, 8 networked printers and 9 WAP's. Everything else is DHCP controlled.


quote:
Originally posted by James
Do WAPs have IPs?


Yeah. Ours do anyway
James
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quote:
Originally posted by Aj.
Ah rite.

No probs then. The job should be fairly easy. We only have 9 servers, 8 networked printers and 9 WAP's. Everything else is DHCP controlled.


quote:
Originally posted by James
Do WAPs have IPs?


Yeah. Ours do anyway
I did a wireless network design assignment in my final year.

Can't remember whether I gave the WAPs IPs or not
Aaron
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They're a device on the network and need to be accessed via the web interface.

Giving them a static address isn’t a must...but it makes them easier to manage.
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Servers, Printers, Wireless Access point
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The APs need IP for config.

You got a plan drawn up?

Also student machines on DHCP? Does this not make logging stuff a bit of a nightmare?
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quote:
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The APs need IP for config.

You got a plan drawn up?

Also student machines on DHCP? Does this not make logging stuff a bit of a nightmare?


Yeah i've got a plan for the new IP's of the static devices. Well two actually...a plan for a private range of 192.x and a plan for the 10.x range

As for logging on the DHCP machines, logging what?

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Servers, printers, routers and switches (if managed) should have statics.

Workstations on DHCP will make life easier.

How many nodes have you got in total?
Aaron
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9 servers
8 Printers
9 wireless access points
384 work stations


[Edited on 28-09-2007 by Aj.]
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Servers, Printers, Wireless Access point


My work has all these set to static on the 10.x.x.x range starting from .1, .2, .3,.4 etc for servers then WAP's then the network printers.

I'd forget about your clients having static IP's if you have enough range for all your clients then increase the lease time so they stick with that IP for longer saves having to get a new one.

Ours is set to 30days and never had trouble, means after half term etc you come back and they all still have a valid IP to log straight on with no searching.


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willay
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quote:
Originally posted by Aj.
9 servers
8 Printers
9 wireless access points
384 work stations


[Edited on 28-09-2007 by Aj.]


410 nodes, hum.



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your going to need several different subnets then
Aaron
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your going to need several different subnets then


Yeah, i hope to get funds for the firewall which will allow us to have private addresses.

If not, i'll build a smoothwall or sommat
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Steve, if he has multiple subnets he'll require a router, or he can use a larger mask such as:

10.1.0.0/255.255.0.0
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yes
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Servers here are .1 and .2, Printers .3 .4 .5. .6, AP's .7 .8 .9 .10 .11, DHCP starts at 30 for future expanding

 
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