Ben G
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lol never noticed the wipers, very cool
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corsa-sxi
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maybe the torque figures u were quoting are different? 1 is quoting Nm, 1 is quoting ft lbs?
i just got back from driving my companys golf GT tdi 140, its very nippy indeed, but the engine makes one hell of a noise
[Edited on 10-03-2008 by corsa-sxi]
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whitter45
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I am not saying tjhe 170 engine is bad - if the opposite its a very good engine
However all VAGS suffer from a non linear delivery. You pull off its nothing, than a big surge of power then it runs out of breathe
If you like that deliver thats fine - it makes it feel quicker than it actually is
IMO they are noisey and unrefined compared to others although its far from being a bad engine
I just feel the power delivery is better on the 140 and in real life terms the 170 isn't much faster although it feels it due to the raw punch of power
Lovely car all the same mate and enjoy
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pow
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Its true whitter, but you adjust your driving style to suit it. The 140 is a nice, smooth engine (Just like the 100 in the 1.9), whereas the 170 is the sporty, snappy engine - but can be driven smoothly, just like the 130 in the 1.9, which I have 
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whitter45
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I know mate - it was just an abservation and no way would I class it as a bad engine - not as quick as you think though
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T21SVJ
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after having the 140 engine in our passat weve been put of the VW group its on the 3rd engine from VW on a 56plate, unreliable, noisey. car has only done 40k aswell.
after having audis and VW for along time now we wont be going back there for another one.
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deano87
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Looks good 
Went looking at Audi A3 2.0TDi S-line's with dad (for him) on Saturday. Nothing special really. Was too late for a test drive though.
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RossyB
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ugly, just dont like them at all.
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whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by t8ssj
after having the 140 engine in our passat weve been put of the VW group its on the 3rd engine from VW on a 56plate, unreliable, noisey. car has only done 40k aswell.
after having audis and VW for along time now we wont be going back there for another one.
a common problem on the 2.0 TDI's are the heads go
My mate has had 4 in all with 80k miles on them
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MatG
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
Its true whitter, but you adjust your driving style to suit it. The 140 is a nice, smooth engine (Just like the 100 in the 1.9), whereas the 170 is the sporty, snappy engine - but can be driven smoothly, just like the 130 in the 1.9, which I have
totally agree with you there after driving both 
quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
I know mate - it was just an abservation and no way would I class it as a bad engine - not as quick as you think though
love this statement - how quick is it then, if its not as quick as I think??  I know I put my foot down, change gears in the correct places the car surges forward and I am doing 70+ in seconds - so I think its quick and its as quick as a simalar weighted car with similar BHP/torque figures 
not having a go just trying to understand what you mean Yes the map on it is aggressive but then most if not all diesels are mapped in this way, certainly the astra mk5 is and of course all the other VAG cars with this engine.
[Edited on 11-03-2008 by MatG]
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CORSA NUT
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Now i'm sorry but that is just plain ugly  as long as your happy with it though Mat then it's all good..
And as for the Astra???!!! Is that still getting done?? Surely it's time to bin the whole idea?
I got bored with the performance of my Fabia VRS after a short while.At first powerfull diesels feel really quick but i hated the short power band.
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MatG
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quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
Now i'm sorry but that is just plain ugly as long as your happy with it though Mat then it's all good..
And as for the Astra???!!! Is that still getting done?? Surely it's time to bin the whole idea?
I got bored with the performance of my Fabia VRS after a short while.At first powerfull diesels feel really quick but i hated the short power band.
what some poeple hate others like!  Never get me in a scooby The car had to be a 5 door, had to be diesel, and sporty the Leon for us ticks all those boxes!
Of course the astra is going to get finished, its a hobby and I enjoy it (most of the time)!
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whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by MatG
quote:
Originally posted by pow
Its true whitter, but you adjust your driving style to suit it. The 140 is a nice, smooth engine (Just like the 100 in the 1.9), whereas the 170 is the sporty, snappy engine - but can be driven smoothly, just like the 130 in the 1.9, which I have
totally agree with you there after driving both
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Originally posted by whitter45
I know mate - it was just an abservation and no way would I class it as a bad engine - not as quick as you think though
love this statement - how quick is it then, if its not as quick as I think?? I know I put my foot down, change gears in the correct places the car surges forward and I am doing 70+ in seconds - so I think its quick and its as quick as a simalar weighted car with similar BHP/torque figures
not having a go just trying to understand what you mean Yes the map on it is aggressive but then most if not all diesels are mapped in this way, certainly the astra mk5 is and of course all the other VAG cars with this engine.
[Edited on 11-03-2008 by MatG]
at the end of the day the book figure is 8.3 to 60 and over 22 seconds to 100. IMO that not that quick but it feels quicker due to the way its delivered
so love the statement however much you want to. I left one for dead the other day and my car is not quick either - nippy yes - quick no
Everyone thinks that the VAG diesels will kill most things on the road when in reality it won't
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MatG
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define quick please, and how does it relate to nippy?
was the 'one you left for dead' even aware that you were on the same road?
Who is 'everyone' and why would they think it would kill most cars on the road?
[Edited on 12-03-2008 by MatG]
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whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by MatG
define quick please, and how does it relate to nippy?
was the 'one you left for dead' even aware that you were on the same road?
Who is 'everyone' and why would they think it would kill most cars on the road?
[Edited on 12-03-2008 by MatG]
had this arguement so many times a VAG diesel IMO is nto a quick car
Yes the guy new as when we pulled off the roundabout he went for it
More and more topics are relating to derv power with owners being mis lead to actually how quick the car is
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djgritt
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Nice - Same as my car - in a less practical format...
Mine is still 100% standard, and up on power and torque over book figures too - 6HP - 26lb/ft to be precise... Nice curve to it too;
Enjoy...
[Edited on 12-03-2008 by djgritt]
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mwg
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Octavia looks smart
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