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Author Geometry set up
Warren G
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1st Apr 08 at 19:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

already have a rear whiteline arb

Gsi thicker front arb

front and rear strut braces

spax rsx coil overs

toyo proxies on rear yoko's on front


personaly think need more camber on cornering
EwertonGSi
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1st Apr 08 at 19:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Mattb
quote:
Originally posted by broster
Paul, it is actually toe which eats tyres, not camber


Both excessive toe and camber will wear tyres quickly to be fair,

excessive toe will scrub the tyres out due to the tyres effectivly being dragged down the road.

excessive camber will wear the tyres heavily also. mainly due to the fact the tyres will run hotter on one edge due to the reduced contact area and increased load on the tyre that results from the smaller contact area, hotter tyres get softer, softer tyres wear quicker..

there are subtle differences in the wear patterns between the two. I get to see both pretty much everyday, as vw cant seem to set the suspension geometry on their new cars very well

Thats true for street and road cars. On track the main goal of camber setup is achieve even temperatures on tyre's surface, like this (60/58/55) fr tyre. This way the tyre wears evenly and much less than other cars with a wrong camber setup. Wrong camber results in low grip->low corner speeds->more skids->more wear->poor laptimes.
EwertonGSi
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quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
already have a rear whiteline arb

Gsi thicker front arb

front and rear strut braces

spax rsx coil overs

toyo proxies on rear yoko's on front


personaly think need more camber on cornering


is that bar some call "arb" looks like yours?
mantamark
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1st Apr 08 at 21:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeh thats the Whiteline Rear ARB, same as mine.

Warren you have the same setup as me, bar i have a Whiteline front ARB too, and polybushed the car & have a cage.

How do you find it then? not driven mine yet, would you recomend anything else?

cheers.
EwertonGSi
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hehe, as i thought.
Well this isnīt a real anti-roll bar. This bar resists torsion of the beam axle only.
Those two bearings must be fixed on the car body to work properly.
RCS
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quote:
Originally posted by EwertonGSi
hehe, as i thought.
Well this isnīt a real anti-roll bar. This bar resists torsion of the beam axle only.
Those two bearings must be fixed on the car body to work properly.


mantamark
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Bearings?

It is sold as a ARB?
Warren G
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quote:
Originally posted by mantamark
Yeh thats the Whiteline Rear ARB, same as mine.

Warren you have the same setup as me, bar i have a Whiteline front ARB too, and polybushed the car & have a cage.

How do you find it then? not driven mine yet, would you recomend anything else?

cheers.



yes thats the bar i have


i also have a quaiffe diff that aids handling tbh

its pretty good tbh, most people would be inpressed, but im not

not stable enough, doesnt scare me, need for front end grip/less rear end grip

not balanced enough
Mobby
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2nd Apr 08 at 22:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i had my tracking done electronicly, and they said something about because its lower they were going to set it at negative 2? and i noticed the wheel both stick out either end, was this good of them?
AK
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neg 2 is quite a bit for a road car.... but its better than +2.

lowering causes negative camber
Mobby
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cheers for the reply ak, it still pulls abit to the left for some reason even though he said they were both negative2, should i ask for neg1 next time

[Edited on 03-04-2008 by mobby]

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