markx14xe
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c16xe and x16xe are very close in power whats the differance ?
0 to 60mph 9sec for the gsi
but 9.5sec for the sport
and does anyone know the topspeed of a gsi corsa b ?
sport is 119mph
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steddy-eddie
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i know the inlet manifold on the gsi is different to the 1.6 sport, the gsi inlet manifold is plastic, the gsi also has an afm which the 1.6 sport doesnt
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Ollie_B
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the 1.6 sports top speed is at least 130mph because weve had that out of my brothers
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by ollieb123]
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fazza
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depends what gsi u get as the later gsi has the same engine
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Kevxx
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quote:
Originally posted by ollieb123
the 1.6 sports top is at least 130mph because weve had that out of my brothers
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by ollieb123]
really?
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Ollie_B
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yep took a video of the speedo but cant find it anywhere now?lol
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Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by ollieb123
yep took a video of the speedo but cant find it anywhere now?lol
the speedo will be about 10mph out at 120mph so sounds about right.
you were doing 120 not 130 
mine said 140mph when i was sat at 131mph on the tom tom 
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote:
Originally posted by ollieb123
yep took a video of the speedo but cant find it anywhere now?lol
What the clocks read,and what your actually doing is 2 different things.
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Ellis
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X uses a MAP, C uses a MAF
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Ollie_B
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lol fair enough sounds like you know more than me haha
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Ben G
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not really, i just decided to hoon it down the motorway one night and checked the tomtom gps speed against the speedometer.
i told my brother we were doing 140mph though for cool points 
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Ollie_B
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learn something new everyday, was that in your st?
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by ollieb123]
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fazza
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
i told my brother we were doing 140mph though for cool points
they worth more than internet points???
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Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by ollieb123
learn something new everyday, was that in your st?
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by ollieb123]
yeah, was plenty more go in it but it's not cool doing that speed, i prefer just cruising along at 70mph to be honest, much less stress
and yes, real life coolness points are worth 10x what internetz points are 
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Ollie_B
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yep well having a 1.2 doesnt really give me much chance to cruise at 130 lol
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Daimo B
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@ noobs believing speedos.
C16XE has 109bhp. I don't care what anyone says, it pulls harder, MUCH harder through the gears and rev range. X16 engine doesn't pull as hard.
C16 is 121mph, 0-60 in 8.9.
X16 is 119mph, 0-60 in 9.5
C16XE only came in 1993 and early 1994 GSi's. Late 1994 and early 95 came with the X16XE.
Then the 1.6 stopped in the corsa for 1 (or 2) years. Then came back out in the Sport in 97.
Some "tuners" will say there isn't much difference, but there is. Tried enough of both engines to confirm it.
Remember it'll be very hard now to gauge true performance and most C16's will be around 100k miles, and most X16's won't have near that.
Also C16's had problems with piston rings and gaskets ( and tensioners, but thats something else), but it was the better engine.
C16 was detuned from 150bhp t 109bhp.
X16 was based around the much lower output that the C16 came with. Also more "eco tree hugging hippy" CO2 friendly.
Oh, inlet ports are different shape too.
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by VXR]
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markx14xe
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thanks for that
vxr
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Daimo B
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And before you ask.
Yup, its better to take out your X14 and put a C16/X16 in over tuning your 1.4.
Been there my friend, the 1.4 just doesn't have the torque. Its a great engine, one of the best in the 1400cc class for rallying, but on the road, it always gets stuffed by its bigger brothers.
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markx14xe
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mine is just a fast as astra 1.6 sxi 52 plate because i raced one
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Jamie_Hastings1
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The Gsi engine had larger valves and cams and flowed better. Therefore more tuneable and revved faster. My 1600 sport stops pulling at 128mph and thats with a Satnav.
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
quote:
Originally posted by ollieb123
learn something new everyday, was that in your st?
[Edited on 10-11-2008 by ollieb123]
yeah, was plenty more go in it but it's not cool doing that speed, i prefer just cruising along at 70mph to be honest, much less stress
and yes, real life coolness points are worth 10x what internetz points are
Of course its cool doing that speed.
Not as cool as putting the foot down in 5th,then looking at the clocks and the needles touching 165
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Stokie Dave
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Mate of mine with just an induction kit on his C16XE GSi easily pulled on me @ 80+ with my 1.6 sport (x16xe) with k&n panel, derestricted airbox, catback exhaust...
i had missus and some shopping in but his pulled so much harder to pull quite a big gap.
I was gutted! lol 
I'd deffo say the C16 is best, been in a couple but dont really feel much diff up to 60/70 but not really experienced a C16XE above that.
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Jenko_Sport
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In standard form you WONT tell the difference aslong as one driver isnt a complete spaz and cant drive in a straight line.
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Stokie Dave
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Just weight differences might play a big part @ proper speed maybe?
I had about 15 stone more in my car nevermind the aircon and side impact bars etc etc but the gap was quite big so I gave up @ 100 lol
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