mattk
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Registered: 27th Feb 06
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mate has just started on the steroids, and not to be out done Im wanting to prove myself right in saying they are not a substitute for eating correctly,
Im currently on
3egg scrambled egg and toast first thing, some form of chicken and noodles / rice for dinner and then main meal at night is any variety of turkey chicken beef fishj ect with rice pasta noodles or chips, I know I need to eat 5 times a day instead of 3 so Ive sorted that out, think Im wandering about is snaks, what can I have in the car or on my computer table to nibble on, are dry roasted peanuts and the like ok?
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will_doyle
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brasil nuts,
raisens
sunflower seeds
hazelnuts
Do you not take protein shake?
And how often do you work out?
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mattk
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yeah I take shakes, we go 4 times a week, I just need to clean my diet up so h doesnt get ahead of me
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Marc
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I've been taking 90+ recently. tastes like shit but you can't argue with the figures - High in protein and low in carbs and only £27 a tub.
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will_doyle
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This is my diet I have just started
try this?
Meal 1
30g whey
2 yolks, 6 whites scrambled
4 slices of granary toast
glass of orange juice
Meal 2
200g chicken breast
100g (dry weight) brown rice
10g olive oil
Piece of fruit
Meal 3
100g brown pasta
2 tins tuna
Pasta sauce
10g flax seed oil
Train
PWO
60g dextrose
30g whey
Meal 4
1 large baked potato
250g lean steak mince
Green beans
Meal 5
100g rice
200g chicken
10g olive oil
Green beans
Meal 6
300g cottage cheese
50g peanut butter
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Jake
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^^i give you two weeks on that diet before the cracks start to show
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DC90
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quote: Originally posted by jake
^^i give you two weeks on that diet before the cracks start to show
This is Doyle we are talking about here, like fuck has he even started that diet
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Tommy L
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Registered: 21st Aug 06
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I'd put money on that being a copied pasted diet
For snacks you could do yourself a chicken sandwich or tuna or the like.
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DizzyRebel
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Yes he pastes that in every thread lol. That sort of diet only works for a 200lb body builder on gear working out 5 times a week.
Steroids will make him pop out, but it depends what hes taking, the dosages etc. What cort of cycle is he running? He wont grow without proper training and diet, but he will still grow faster assuming hes taking something worthwhile.
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will_doyle
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I started that diet last week and its abit to much for me..
so instead of 200g chicken.. its now.. 100g.. etc etc
and I work out 3 times a week
[Edited on 05-07-2009 by will_doyle]
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DizzyRebel
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Its a shit diet, badly structered and the macro nutrient ratio is all wrong. Loading up on carbs and dropping the protein is a recipie for man boobs and love handles. Esp as you only train 3 times a week and you wont be training anywhere near the intensity you should be to make use of all the calories.
Remove the useless carbs and add protein and fats. you will burn more fat and still grow well.
Heres something id suggest for a trraining day:
0730 - 4 egg omlette with lean ham and low fat cheese, apple, 10g fish oils
0930 - 200g chicken breast, veg, handful of almonds/brazil nuts
1230 - 200g tuna, salad, apple
1500 - 200g chicken breast, veg, scoop PB
1730: - PWO - 50g whey, 1 maltodextrin, bowl of kellogs fruit and fibre.
1930 - 200g Salmon fillet, Veg, 10g fish oils
Pre bed - 50g chocolate whey, 2 scoops peanut butter, 200g cottage cheese, 250ml of milk blended into a shake
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Xs
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When you say fish oils, do you mean like taking 10 of those cods liver oil things or something? (Just being nosey)
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will_doyle
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quote: Originally posted by Xs
When you say fish oils, do you mean like taking 10 of those cods liver oil things or something? (Just being nosey)
fish oil tabelts
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DizzyRebel
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Omega 3 fish oil tablets. they sell them in holland and barrat or any other health food store. Cod liver oil caps are different.
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will_doyle
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quote: Originally posted by DizzyRebel
Omega 3 fish oil tablets. they sell them in holland and barrat or any other health food store. Cod liver oil caps are different.
They are different but they do the same thing
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Xs
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I see, so is that just instead of like eating fish?!
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J da Silva
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quote: Originally posted by Xs
I see, so is that just instead of like eating fish?!
You'd be better taking no notice of Doyle, he is shit skinny and just pastes random crap from rubbish training pages.
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DizzyRebel
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quote: Originally posted by Xs
I see, so is that just instead of like eating fish?!
No, fish has protein in it - quite a lot too. It also has long chain omega 3 fatty acids saturated in it as well which is why its so good for you as it carries lots of protein and good fats with no trans fats or carbs.
Cod liver oil caps are different to fish oil caps, fish oil have more long chain omega 3's and other EFAs whereas cod liver oil caps dont have the benefit of all the other oils saturated within fish meat.
To summarise:
Eat fish as a source of protein, and when you eat protein you should also take in dietarty fats. Since you already get some oils in the fish you have eaten its best to use nuts as your fat source to go with fish. If you eat chicken or red meat as a protein source then use fish oil caps as a fat source as they also have the healthy long chain omegas 3's in them that wont be saturated in the poultry or red meat.
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stuartmitchell
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Mine is pretty straight forward as if your at work you cant exactly nip off at half 10 to prepare a baked potato lol!
Breakfast:
Muesli + 2 pices of peanut butter on brown bread
Protein Shake
Snack:
Yogurt
Lunch:
Tuna Salad with 2 boiled eggs sliced + Salad
Afternoon snack:
Yogurt
Evening meal:
Spinach Soup (ace) Great for protein
Chicken + Brown rice or Tuna Pasta Salad
Evening snack
Yogurt or cheese on oatcakes
Training 3 - 4 times a week in the Gym plus one cardio session. Using USN Protein Shakes after ever session.
Seen quite good results so far!
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