mattwhite
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Home-grown rule introduced
Whats peoples thoughts on this? I think it will be good for english football in the long run, but surely all the top teams will just buy english players for silly money. Villa will have a field day with all the english players they have and other clubs wanting them. Will be prices like Milner for £20m and Young for £30m etc...
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Nath
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Deffo a good thing. The emphasis should always be on home grown talent. It'll mean the clubs with the best youth systems will reap the benefits, whether it via good talent or good business through selling said talent. It's appauling when a team like Arsenal can play an entire game in the English Premier League without fielding an English player.
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Cosmo
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Its hardly anything thats going to be a struggle for 99% of the sides out there, 8 players have to be classed 'home grown' in a squad of 25. Home grown being anyone who played 3yrs in either England or Wales between the age of 16-21.
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Nath
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I reckon this could make poaching worse though.
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J da Silva
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Fabio, Rafael, Possebon, Anderson, Tosic, Nani, Macheda, Evans x 2, would all qualify for home grown talent for Man Utd for example.
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Cosmo
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Exactly. We've a shit load of foreign kids who we signed at around 16 who would be classed as it too.
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Cosmo
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Out of interest though, looking at our current squad the 8 would probably be...
Glen Johnson
Jamie Carragher
Steven Gerrard
Jay Spearing
Stephen Darby
Emiliano Insua
Damien Plessis
Daniel Ayala
We do have a load of young English kids but Im not sure they'd be classed in the first 25 and would only make it into the 'extras' who are under 21.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Its hardly anything thats going to be a struggle for 99% of the sides out there, 8 players have to be classed 'home grown' in a squad of 25. Home grown being anyone who played 3yrs in either England or Wales between the age of 16-21.
Shame, I would of liked to see what Arsenal would have done!
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J da Silva
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Fold?
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Cosmo
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The FA would just change the rules to find a way to allow them to do whatever the fuck they want.
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Ben J
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We've 15 in our current squad that qualify.......no issues.
On SSN it was showing how players that qualify each club has in current squads. Villa had 24! Utd 23 I think. Us 15 and Liverpool 8.
The likes of City etc could be screwed.
[Edited on 15-09-2009 by Ben J]
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Rob_Quads
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All this would mean is that more kids would be brought in at 16. Then by the time they are 19 they are home-grown and qualify.
IMO Its one of them rules that sounds good but then ends up just not working or having the deseried effect.
Do they think this will suddenly make english kids better at playing football. The problems are WAY more deep than that.
If England wants better kids they need to invest in sport at a young age and school.
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Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
Deffo a good thing. The emphasis should always be on home grown talent. It'll mean the clubs with the best youth systems will reap the benefits, whether it via good talent or good business through selling said talent. It's appauling when a team like Arsenal can play an entire game in the English Premier League without fielding an English player.
They should be more interested in lowering the prices of English players then  Why pay £8m for the potential of Ashley Young when you can pay £6m for the proven international quality of Tomas Rosicky?!
I can't even count on both hands the number of English lads playign in the PL who were trained at Arsenal but had bad attitude problems or poor trainign from a young age, its not Arsenals fault they couldnt cut it tbh
Besides this rule has naff all to dow ith bringing through more English players
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Cosmo
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Nah the rule doesnt have anything to do with bringing the talent through, as at the end of the day if the players are good enough they'll always rise to the top no matter how many foreign players are around them.
Ben...you have 15 players who qualify for this in a squad of 25? Im guessing 90% of them are foreign kids you stole at 16?
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Robbo
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A lot of young English lads too
Gibbs, Wilshere, Walcott, Simpson, Emmanuel-Thomas + several more
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Ben J
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Nah the rule doesnt have anything to do with bringing the talent through, as at the end of the day if the players are good enough they'll always rise to the top no matter how many foreign players are around them.
Ben...you have 15 players who qualify for this in a squad of 25? Im guessing 90% of them are foreign kids you stole at 16?
Yep....70% tbh. But we did it above board unlike some other clubs we could mention.
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Nath
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
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Originally posted by Nath
Deffo a good thing. The emphasis should always be on home grown talent. It'll mean the clubs with the best youth systems will reap the benefits, whether it via good talent or good business through selling said talent. It's appauling when a team like Arsenal can play an entire game in the English Premier League without fielding an English player.
They should be more interested in lowering the prices of English players then Why pay £8m for the potential of Ashley Young when you can pay £6m for the proven international quality of Tomas Rosicky?!
I can't even count on both hands the number of English lads playign in the PL who were trained at Arsenal but had bad attitude problems or poor trainign from a young age, its not Arsenals fault they couldnt cut it tbh
Besides this rule has naff all to dow ith bringing through more English players
Keep your knickers on I mistook it for a different proposition. I didn't realise what it actually was.
[Edited on 15-09-2009 by Nath]
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