Paul_J
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Exactly Paul regarding the shared servers... I think people host static style pages and think 'well that's fine, I'm sure it'd be fine for SQL servers and web serving'...
I definately think i'll be buying a server from the bay at some point in the future.
out of interest Paul how much (electricity) does it cost you to have the server running 24/7?
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Dom
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Originally posted by PaulW
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Originally posted by Sam
U2U Paul W, I'm sure he hosts Corsa B on a blade server of some description from his house?
That and about another dozen forums/sites... Aswell as Email, and a dedicated FSX server...
I have 5Mb upload capacity too, which is nice  be* are trialing dual line setups so 2.5Mb up per line, plus 22Mb down per line makes for some interesting speeds
I bought a server from the bay about 3 years ago, an old Celestica A2110 which was old decommissioned stock when they went bust so the administrators were selling it all off... All I've had to replace in that time are 3 fans and 1 HDD, nothing really (shares its roots with some HP server of sorts, can't remember the exact one...)
I don't do windows hosting though, everything I have is running on Linux (tweaked gentoo setup) which does exactly what I want without any bloat.
But if you go down shared hosting, try to remember that you will be using a server shared with a good thousand or more users... I used to run Corsa-B on one of there shared hosting plans (the Pro package at like £12 a month or something), and the performance of the SQL servers, and web serving in general was abysmal! You'd be looking at a good 30+ seconds to serve each page due to how loaded there servers were... Many other shared hosting plans are the same...
Even the so called "Dedicated" servers you buy are most likely just a virtual server on a rack somewhere, either using xen or vmware... You only get real dedicated now if you own the actual hardware and get it colocated or host at your own place...
[Edited on 14-11-2009 by PaulW]
Not completely true now is it  Not all hosting companies have shared servers hosting thousands of accounts (in fact i doubt it even happens, wankers like GoDaddy only have a 100-200 accounts on shared services) and the hosting company would have to tell you if a so called "dedicated" box is virtualised (VDS hosting is a virtualised dedi box) otherwise it would be false advertising.
Hosting at home is great for dev work and testing, other than that you're trying to push a round peg into a square hole. Not only don't you have a decent pipe (5mbps isn't going to get you anywhere, plus it's against most T&Cs), you also don't have the infrastructure in case anything happens (power outage, hardware fail etc). On top of that you had the added noise and leccy bills, and the general hassle of tinkering with it. Unless you're planning to get really into server side of things, why bother? Let some data centre monkey look after the box and you worry about the dev side of your product(s).
Eitherway you would be asking on a dedicated hosting forum (plenty of them about) where you'll get replies from people that do this for a living.
All i say is, obviously go for uk hosting and do your research before your purchase (if co-lo'ing, get a visit first).
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John
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Originally posted by Paul_J
out of interest Paul how much (electricity) does it cost you to have the server running 24/7?
Mine isn't server class hardware so will be slightly different, but I've got a computer running 24/7 and the electricity usage is negligible.
I think I've worked it out before to 30 quid a year or something.
On the uk hosting point, depends what his target market is, if it includes america you might as well go there, pay less and be faster for more people.
Would totally depend who it was aimed at though obviously.
[Edited on 15-11-2009 by John]
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Paul_J
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Thanks for all the help guys.
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