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Jas
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26th Jul 10 at 18:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

a friend has one and its running flat,

It had problems with the dpf so he removed it,

its been put on vag com etc and no fault codes, we mapped it last week so the car knows the dpf has been removed but still no better



any ideas?
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26th Jul 10 at 18:51   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What's the boost pressures like? MAP sensor? Boost leak?
Mattb
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Turbo fucked? Seen them sieze rather nicely..
Also unplug the airmass meter see if it makes any difference..

If you have VAGCOM then check the measured value blocks in the engine control unit - Check the Map sensor values at idle and with just the ignition on - should be around 1000mbar +/- 50mbar its not uncommon for them to read daft figures at idle (like 2400mbar) causing the engine ecu to cut the boost..

as for airmass i cant remember the exact figures but 330 mg/stroke seems to ring a bell
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Surely if the turbo has gone then it would be pissing out blue smoke. Would it be anything like the pd engines and suffer from maf problems? Also is it smoking badly when accelerating? if so might be a boost leak.
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What map is on it? Who did it? Did they not have data logging facilities?

Is the egr stuck open blowing boost thru exhaust?

[Edited on 26-07-2010 by broster]
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i know the early models had major issues with cracked heads

Other that unplug maf and see how it runs
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its a 57plate if that helps


mapped by myself with a viezu map, theyre good normally, but was running awful prior to the map too
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n75 valve ?
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Chipped uk then...... Done a google on them?
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quote:
Originally posted by Jas
mapped by myself with a viezu map, theyre good normally, but was running awful prior to the map too


I'd of got the car running properly before mapping it, tbh.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Jas
mapped by myself with a viezu map, theyre good normally, but was running awful prior to the map too


I'd of got the car running properly before mapping it, tbh.




Not always possible when removing the dpf to be honest! But a new dpf can be over 1000 where as a remap is 3-400.
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26th Jul 10 at 21:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well we've remapped around the dpf to see if that resolves it, no harm in putting old map back on,

dpf for my bosses leon cost 1600£
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My mates just got rid of the exact same model A3 because it was a fucking heap of shit riddled with a different problem every week. Tell him to cut his losses and sell it.
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why get one with a fucking dpf, peice of wanky shit

i would say thank
the inlet manifold flaps have broken up
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
why get one with a fucking dpf, peice of wanky shit


I beg to differ in my case. 35,000 miles and nearly 3 years later and mines never had a single problem with the DPF. And its been remapped which everyone claims will only make things worse

57 plate would of been under warranty but seen as though he's removed the DPF that's now out the window Good luck sorting it.

[Edited on 26-07-2010 by mwg]
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
My mates just got rid of the exact same model A3 because it was a fucking heap of shit riddled with a different problem every week. Tell him to cut his losses and sell it.


You said it was a 54 plate which is a 140 engine so non DPF.
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
Chipped uk then...... Done a google on them?
we use them in work, no problems so far, running a map on my personal car and work van
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
why get one with a fucking dpf, peice of wanky shit


I beg to differ in my case. 35,000 miles and nearly 3 years later and mines never had a single problem with the DPF. And its been remapped which everyone claims will only make things worse

57 plate would of been under warranty but seen as though he's removed the DPF that's now out the window Good luck sorting it.

[Edited on 26-07-2010 by mwg]


DPF isn't part of warranty
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quote:
Originally posted by Jas

DPF isn't part of warranty


It depends on the circumstances of the failure.. as a general rule of thumb, if a software update was available or if the exhaust gas pressure sensor was faulty then the DPF would be covered if it became blocked - 9 times out of 10 however people ignore the regeneration procedure..

 
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