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emicen
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quote:
Originally posted by Fonz
quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
My Dads mate is one, its just a boys club where you go to get away from the wife and smoke cigars tbh


quote:
Originally posted by Ben J
Its basically an invitational group in a local area. Usually members are business owners etc and its all very you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours.

Ran a Mason's function once at the hotel.



a friend of mine is one, as his is Dad and his Grandad. I have been invited to two events (dinner dances) and got on well with it. been invited to a third dinner but i have a wedding invite that day so can't make it. last time he asked if would be interested in joining, my GF is convinced he was going to ask me next time to be one, will have to wait and see now.....

but in my limited experience at the dinners and a very open look around the temples the above is right. a load of chaps getting together doing right (raising for charity) and using their business contacts to help make life a bit more bareable with some ceremonial joining methods....


Exactly. Favours yes, secretly running the country and flaunting rules and regs no.

Funny everyone likes to theorise about back slapping but none seem to know about the amount of charity work they do.
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Its an invite only secret society which is basically an "old boys club".

It generally revolves around favours so in essence the members all end up exploiting their own positions resulting in everybody ending up with free or cheap stuff.

Its all very self indulgent but can you blame them when we live in a society that will give a furnished house to a familly of crack heads.

[Edited on 04-03-2011 by DaveyLC]
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There is so much shit in this thread it's unreal.

It's a hell of a lot of fundraising for charities, rather than exploiting their job positions. People would soon get kicked out of their lodge if that's all they're in there for.

[Edited on 04-03-2011 by Whittie]
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Its like having a big dinner party where you don't want people round your house
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all the men who have (may have) walked on the moon are freemasons
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its just people who want to feel important, as they have the money but still don't find they have the celebritity status they desire.

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Originally posted by emicen
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Originally posted by Nismo
Yeah its business related as Ben said , local communitys where back handers go on, Mr A needs planning permission to build a 10 story block of flats in a grade 2 listed area... gets the planning without any problems... Mr A is well in with the Masons where Mr B is the locol mayor etc...

[Edited on 03-03-2011 by Nismo]


No it isn't.

If you enter thinking its all about backhanders, back scratching and stonecutters style empires you'll be sorely disappointed and probably not welcome for long.


Well my experiance of the local masons is exactly like that
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My dad was a bricklayer
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I know the secret willy shake
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i killed a bee on the lavender bush with my bare hands
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They're not overly secretive; I got taken round the Jasper lodge in Stoke on Trent; into the main meeting halls etc, whilst I was at a friend's engagement party. Her Dad and my ex's Dad were in the Masons at that lodge so they were allowed to use the function suite free of charge. Considering you were in the middle of one of the most deprived areas of one of the most deprived cities in the UK, you wouldn't know it. So much oppulence and combine that with the link to the Potteries, the collection of Wedgwood and Doulton etc was brilliant. Must be worth a fortune.

Its got religous connections especially to the methodist church but not overly religous inside the buildings. Its basically a boys club, you scratch my back type affair. All in different businesses with different services they can bring to the group at vastly reduced prices etc
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quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
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Originally posted by emicen
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Originally posted by Nismo
Yeah its business related as Ben said , local communitys where back handers go on, Mr A needs planning permission to build a 10 story block of flats in a grade 2 listed area... gets the planning without any problems... Mr A is well in with the Masons where Mr B is the locol mayor etc...

[Edited on 03-03-2011 by Nismo]


No it isn't.

If you enter thinking its all about backhanders, back scratching and stonecutters style empires you'll be sorely disappointed and probably not welcome for long.


Well my experiance of the local masons is exactly like that


As per Whittie's post, thats nothing like how it is and like I said earlier on, you'd get booted for trying to behave like that.
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Maybe not where your too, but in my town that is exactly what happened and everyone knows it, no one else could get planning permission yet this guy did and that is the reason.

I cant speak for the masons where you live, however i can speak for the ones where i live.
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thats like the woman who lives here whose 10yr plan was to join the council, grant her own planning permisson then quit the council after she had built her holiday homes/barn complex.

genius
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How does one go about finding out where their local "lodge" is?
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How does one go about finding out where their local "lodge" is?


just follow random men around until you find it
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whats the difference between a man and a random man?

is it the way they walk?
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
Its an invite only secret society which is basically an "old boys club".





this is a myth, the saying "know one to be one" isn't true. like i say i have been asked if i would consider joining and have been given some pamphlets on it all. it does say that anyone can be a Mason, you don't need to wait to be invited or know someone to become one.

there are 3/4 musts which i forget now, but 2 are
> believe in a higher being
by this they imply God, although a Mason's belief of the form of "a higher being" is his own opinion, and is not necessarily inline with Christian teaching

> a clear criminal record
a Mason is not allowed to have a criminal record, Mason's who collect one are removed from a Lodge.

i think another one is want to be a better person, or something like that, have an interest in helping others.

providing you answer the musts correctly then you're in....or at least starting the process
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
whats the difference between a man and a random man?

is it the way they walk?


a man drives a car with a VR6 derived engine.
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missus dad is in it and doesnt really speak about other than he will be highest ranking next year (think every year they move up a rank) therefore invited to the dinner so wil be intersting

From what I can gather and I dont know much about it its very much like roundtable where they do charity events and meals etc
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they will not save anyone from the war of 2012 i'm afraid

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