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Terry12
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I've just removed an old Honeywell thermostat from my mum's central heating system. It's an old system with a tank in the loft.
There are only 3 wires for the thermstat, Live, Earth and Neutral.

I've wired it up like these instructions say to, But there is no power going to the boiler now. Any ideas how it should be wired?



This is on the inside of the case.



Terry12
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On the first diagram what is on the Neutral wire before it is wired to the thermostat?
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Neutral would be live to boiler I'd say.
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try swapping the live and neutral round
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Cheers guys. I tried swapping the live and neutral to no avail.
It seems the spurred switch isn't getting power. Can I test if there's power to the switch and thermostat with a normal multimeter?
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Yep
Terry12
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Sorted. Just spoke to my cousin who is a plumber and his brother who's an electrician. They're going to come and save my skin and check everything out

I find it strange that changing a simple thermostat would cause it to breakdown, Unless i've blown a fuse that I don't know about.
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We've found that the switch spur is getting 230v but putting nothing out, So we bypassed the switch and got the boiler running but only the hot water light is lit. There is no hot water but I am assuming that's because the tank needs to fill up as we drained it down. The pipes around the boiler are getting hot.

The central heating light is still not coming on and the pump is not pumping, I've tried switching the neutral and live as suggested and then switched them back, Also I fitted the old thermostat and still the central heating is not working.

Any suggestions guys?
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Turn it Off and back on again

Honestly no idea withOut looking
Terry12
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quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Turn it Off and back on again

Honestly no idea withOut looking


Tried that. It's a strange one.
Does the hot water need to run for a while before the central heating will fire or do they generally both fire up together if both switched on?

Reason I ask is because the system was drained down and left off for the last month, Tonight it was filled with water and a cleaner then switched on. The hot water lit up straight off but the central heating did nothing.
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bled the radiators? enough pressure in the rad system?
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Just tested the neutral and live atthe thermostat and there's no voltage. I assume there should be
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Stat should always be live.
Have you got a 3 core and earth cable at the stat or a twin and earth?
One will be perm live, the other will be a switched live out, some stats use a neutral some don't so if you've only got a twin and earth make sure the new stat you fit doesn't need a neutral.

It looks like the stat your trying to fit requires a neutral, however the instructions you've posted a pic of are for a different model.

You could temporarily join the two cables together at the stat this will call for heat and should fire the boiler if the programmer is set to CH ON, if that works your using the wrong type of room stat.

Do you have an s or y plan system? I you don't know the difference a y plan uses one three port valve and an s plan uses two two port valves.

[Edited on 18-09-2011 by ash_corsa]
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I've only got a twin and earth running to the stat.
The instructions has 3 wiring diagrams, Seems I have the wrong stat then
When you say 2 and 3 port valves, Where are the valves?

 
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