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25th Sep 11 at 22:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
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The shit about the ECU's being remapped etc is 100% in the pipeline and vauxhall is one of the main manufacturers who are pushing it to come into law,probably due to the amount of M32's that are being replaced
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And how exactly is an MOT station going to check for a remaped ECU? If my MOT station went plugging shit into my diagnostics port I'd stop using them, I look it for an MOT which checks it's roadworthy. They don't even get driven on the road (hence the speedo not being part of the test).
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quote:
Originally posted by mantamark
Am i the only person that thinks tax should be linked to mot emissions?


Thats actually a really good idea.


I can see modifications being banned. Somewhere else in the EU have a ban on engine mods all together.

Still gay though.
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I dont see how you can have 'illegal' mods. What exactly is it? And why would they make it illegal?
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Better get my puma engined KA on the go now then hadn't OI
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MOT, ministry of transport isn't it?
what part of transport means that it MUST NOT BE MODIFIED


[Edited on 26-09-2011 by JedDy]
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quote:
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Originally posted by mantamark
Am i the only person that thinks tax should be linked to mot emissions?


Thats actually a really good idea.


To be fair, not it's not. You have a CHOICE when you buy a car of what tax band you want it to be in. It changing every year would just be mental.

You take the rough with the smooth as well. The MiTo which does 15k a year is £95 to tax, the Mazda which does all of 2k a year is £215. It's the choice you make when you buy the car isn't it.
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Also your car wont fail on emissions, you will just pay more tax.
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Try searching for 2012 MOT Changes or MOT 2012 on Google. It's strange that the only pages that appear are car forums. It's also strange that 2010/48/EU was ratified 'this year', look at the date on the document: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2010:173:0047:0072:EN:PDF It's also strange that the original post refers to 2009/40/EC as being put into place 'last year', take a look at the date on the document: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2009:141:0012:0028:EN:PDF

Actually, just read both the documents and you'll realise this is just scaremongering.

[Edited on 26-09-2011 by ed]
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Also your car wont fail on emissions, you will just pay more tax.


or you'll just get the friendly tester to stick a micra on due to de-cat
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
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Originally posted by Gary
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Originally posted by mantamark
Am i the only person that thinks tax should be linked to mot emissions?


Thats actually a really good idea.


To be fair, not it's not. You have a CHOICE when you buy a car of what tax band you want it to be in. It changing every year would just be mental.

You take the rough with the smooth as well. The MiTo which does 15k a year is £95 to tax, the Mazda which does all of 2k a year is £215. It's the choice you make when you buy the car isn't it.



Not everyone drives a new car tho Pow. Also, it wouldnt change every year if you kept up the upkeep of your motor etc.
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What about police cars that have remaps? Quite normal now, especially undercover cars.

Hope that will be illegal too.
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Originally posted by pow
And how exactly is an MOT station going to check for a remaped ECU? If my MOT station went plugging shit into my diagnostics port I'd stop using them, I look it for an MOT which checks it's roadworthy. They don't even get driven on the road (hence the speedo not being part of the test).



In responce to this, trim pannels and parts cannot be removed, there for should be unable to find the dianosits plug, and what about the modded cars running on carbs, they don't even have an ecu
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quote:
Originally posted by mantamark
Am i the only person that thinks tax should be linked to mot emissions?


Thats actually a really good idea.


i dont think it is either. this could be fiddled either way. i will explain further if i must, but i assume most of you know what i mean by this.
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Of course it can be fiddled, so can all of the test, but 90% of test centres will do it legit
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My car is tax exempt... Can they change that
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There's enough "friendly" MOT testers out there for me not to worry about this
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There's nothing illegal about remaps so not sure why they are testing for them.

Vauxhall also can't even test the ECU's themselves so how do they expect every MOT station to do it
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Also with things like the bluefin remap devices, its saves the orginal map. So when you have an MOT you can put the standard map back on.

And what happens if you have an aftermarket ECU? You could remap that as its what there for.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
What about police cars that have remaps? Quite normal now, especially undercover cars.

Hope that will be illegal too.

Yep, got a Leon Cupra R down Medway that's remapped. I'm waiting for the day it tries to entice me into racing.
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Originally posted by johnhara1
There's enough "friendly" MOT testers out there for me not to worry about this


THIS^^ although the filth is starting to make it hard for these friendly places
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quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Of course it can be fiddled, so can all of the test, but 90% of test centres will do it legit


legal headlamps cannot automatically deviate to HID kit illegal headlamps

exhaust emissions CAN deviate.

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